Comments from an elder judt returning from Elders' School (page 4)

OUTLAW

The WBT$ Never shuts up about Sex..

SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..

And..

The WBT$ can`t Figure out Why..

JW`s think about Sex so Much..

SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..SEX..Sex..

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I think that, to an extent, the porn watching is a symptom of a bigger problem. At least for myself, the way JWs are taught to think about sex creates unhealthy attitudes which makes them more (read: me) to watch porn excessively and become addicted to it, as opposed to what I assume would be the more healthy viewing habits of the average Worldy™ male.

EDIT: Excellent point, Outlaw

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

R215:"...hard to believe, no?"

ATJ:"Porn IS a big problem with elders."

You're both right.

Porn is a BIG, HARD problem.

yknot:"...decline in males reaching-out..."

How can men reach out for anything when one hand in on the mouse and the other is on... er... the mouse... too?

Seriously though, in my somewhat limited experience dealing with this in and out of Bethhell, I know that some were caught and confronted. But others... I started wondering if some of these confessions of "secret sin" were a way of quitting elder, MS, or Bethel crap.

Gopher

Maybe what vexes the WTS leaders is that so many JW men are getting CAUGHT, thus reducing the number of "qualified" men they can exploit.

The JW's who can keep their secrets well-hidden are the ones who can get ahead.

Satanus

If the gb didn't MAKE it a problem, then, uh, their biggest problem would be gone. Ban eating, and eating would be the biggest problem.

S

wha happened?

yea I'm in line with JP. They can't say they are terrified of the influence sites like this provide, so they gotta fall back on internet porn. As if the computer is so dangerous that one mispelled search leads to a porn site.

Hiding Questioner

"This is typical of the WT to treat a symptom and not address the real problem. Why is it that elders might be using porn? That is the question that they should answer. In my opinion, people with well balanced, meaningful lives usually do not rely upon short cuts to satisfaction – pornography, alcohol, gambling, etc. The WT system does not produce well balanced people with meaningful work and lives. There are some who achieve this through their own efforts without any help from the WT. Since the WT system produces such people, almost all communication from them will be symptom focused. Stop this, do that, without any regard to the root causes of the behaviors."

This so true!!!!

HQ

Nathan Natas

If Patterson would get with the times and dump their 300 baud modems for high-speed internet access, their porn problems would be solved!

DaCheech

JW's are all about appearences, the majority lead a double life.

i was at CO meetings with elders and the CO said brothers don't df'd for masturbating, but if the brother/sister masturbates across a phone line/internet with another person on the other side, then they can be df'd.

since there are others involved then the rule is diffrent.

rules rule them!

wake up everybody, sex is pleasure and if there is a god, then it created us with the desire. people having sex live longer, women having quality sex live longer. our bodies are made this way, cannot fight it or else you feel guilty and get depressed

Will Power

Its that demand for purity cycle.

deviate, confess, humiliate, repent, perform, deviate, confess, humiliate, ..............

all baptized JWs are ministers and just as equal to elders since there is no clergy distinction.

This is how you know a false religion so says the WT. Their ministers are involved in immorality.

Comments from an elder judt returning from Elders' School