Can anyone get Cheney's speech? (and did you catch the processional for Wayman Tisdale's funeral?!?!?!)

by Kudra 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • Kudra
    Kudra

    Hi

    Watching CNN live and Cheney's speech isn't playing which I thought it would- 10:45 eastern?? (do I have my times mixed up?)

    I loved Obama's speech and am curious how cheney could possible match that...

    AND while watching for Cheney's speech they arer showing the funeral for jazz guitarist Wayman Tisdale and when the pall bearers carried his casket up to the stage they were doing this little two-step thing, kind of dancing with his casket. It is the type of thing that would make me cry but it was just so cool and full of life that I could only smile. :)

    -K

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze
    jazz guitarist Wayman Tisdale

    He was a former professional basketball player if I'm not mistaken.

  • Kudra
    Kudra

    I think I read that after he retired from prof basketball he became a jazz guitarist. I have never heard of him before today but was very impressed with his funeral procession!

    Also: Cheney's speech just began.

    From the first bit, it seems that he doesn't like being talked of negatively by big bad Obama. So he's having a televised speech to defend his last 8 years of policy. OK... the *last 8 years* would have been the time for this new-found "transparency".

    Not interested.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    If I understood him correctly, the President said that some detainees will not be tried, they will not be shipped to another country and they will never be released.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/21/civil-libertarian-rips-ob_n_206343.html

  • leavingwt
  • leavingwt
    leavingwt
    We see that, above all, in how the recent debate has been obscured by two opposite and absolutist ends. On one side of the spectrum, there are those who make little allowance for the unique challenges posed by terrorism, and who would almost never put national security over transparency. On the other end of the spectrum, there are those who embrace a view that can be summarized in two words: "anything goes." Their arguments suggest that the ends of fighting terrorism can be used to justify any means, and that the President should have blanket authority to do whatever he wants – provided that it is a President with whom they agree.

    On the above portion of the President's speech, "mcjoan" at Kos, says...

    "To this, I have an extreme objection. That is a strawman and is nonsense. Accepting and forwarding the Republican frame that those who are arguing for accountability would sacrifice national security is damaging. That's accepting the canard that transparency aids and abets the enemy. On behalf of the ALCU, the CCR, the EFF, every organization that has worked diligently for the past eight years to let Americans know what the Bush administration did in our names, I reject the characterization."

  • out4good3
    out4good3

    Jeez....only the hardened right is still listening to Darth Cheney.

    He repeats the same talking point, throws up the same strawmen and red herrings as the Repubs have been used to misdirect people for the last 8 years.

    His only concern is to keep his name in the forfront to help his future book sales.

  • RubaDub
    RubaDub

    I just find it interesting that unlike Obama's teleprompter, Cheney has to have his teleprompter behind him since he is constantly talking out of his ass.

    Rub a Dub

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Cheney is right on many of the points he made. I find it humorous that the sitting President had to have a speech of his own to counter him.

    Here is the transcript.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/05/text_of_cheneys_aei_speech.asp#more

    BTS

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    If I am not mistaken, I believe Cheney's speech was after and in response to the President's speech.

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