The new world will be here January 20, 2009 - what changes are you expectin

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  • beksbks
  • inkling
    inkling

    what changes are you expecting

    Sadly, I expect to be disapointed by someone new.

    (sorry, it's just that i am watching the 5th season of "The Wire")

  • hillbilly
    hillbilly
    (CNET) This story was written by CNET'sDeclan McCullagh.


    Last week, President-elect Barack Obama launched a Web site with detailed information about his plans for technology, Iraq, and health care policies.

    Now they're gone.

    The "agenda" Web pages on Change.gov seem to have mysteriously disappeared on Sunday. By Monday morning, they were replaced with a vague statement saying that Obama and running mate Joe Biden have a "comprehensive and detailed agenda" that will "bring about the kind of change America needs," with the individual pages deleted entirely.

    A version of the now-deleted homeland security agenda recovered from the cache feature of Microsoft's Live Search is far more detailed, promising to convene a nuclear terrorism summit, declare the Internet "a strategic asset," and establish a $2 billion fund to "counter al-Qaeda propaganda." Those happen to be identical to the promises that candidate Obama made earlier this year; they have not been deleted from the campaign Web site.

    I've posted mirror images of the vanished homeland security section, the technology section, and the newsroom section listing the different topics on the right side of the page.

    Dan Pfeiffer, Obama's transition communications director, would not say what was going on or whether the deletion meant that some of the campaign promises would be dropped. He sent CNET News a one-line e-mail message saying: "That section of the Web site is being retooled."

    This isn't the first time that vanishing or altered documents on a presidential Web site have been noticed: President Bush got some unwelcome attention for this last year. The White House's Web team also rewrote the May 2003 caption showing Bush on the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier after the Iraq occupation proved more problematic than expected (see before and after).

    The ephemeral nature of Web publishing does raise some serious issues: if a president-elect circulates a physical press release promising to do something, and then changes his mind, there's a paper trail. That doesn't exist when files are added to a Web site and then quietly removed over a weekend.

    The Library of Congress and other institutions, including the California Digital Library and the Government Printing Office, are trying to remedy this by doing an "end of term" crawl. That means they're regularly crawling and archiving all .gov domains that are considered "government sites," including Change.gov. The crawl started in September and will continue through February 2009.

    The project has a varying crawl schedule, so it may not have collected the agenda pages on Change.gov, Abbie Grotke, a digital media project coordinator on the Web capture team in the Library of Congress' office of strategic initiatives, said on Monday.

    The Change.gov site has been added to the list of sites to be crawled as part of the Library's Election Archives project--a separate effort. Gina Jones, also part of the Library's office of strategic initiatives, said that since it's a new site, it hasn't been collected yet.

    CNET News' Stephanie Condon contributed to this report.

    Need I say more?

    Hill

  • hillbilly
    hillbilly

    so you tell me what he has in mind for those held in Cuba?...send em home?

    Hill

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    Beks: I'm still waiting for you to give me the title of something to read. You never do.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    U.S. Govt Uses Fear and Restrictions Instead of American Liberty

    After spending billions of taxpayer dollars and restricting the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens, has the U.S. government made the world much safer from terrorism? It's hard to see the benefits but it is quite easy to see the costs. Every American citizen has lost a number of important rights that made America great and strong. Instead of standing tall and proud, the authoritarian U.S. government is taking a stance that imitates communism by taking away individual rights.

    Here is a list, compiled by the Associated Press and circulated by the Grassroots International News Association.

    Overview of Changes to Legal Rights
    Some of the fundamental changes to Americans' legal rights by the Bush administration and the USA so-called Patriot Act following the terror attacks:

    * FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigation.

    * FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records requests.

    * FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.

    * RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.

    * FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.

    * RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.

    * RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.


  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    so you tell me what he has in mind for those held in Cuba?...send em home?

    Apparently he is backpedaling on the whole getting rid of torture thing. He releases a lot of conflicting statements.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122636726473415991.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    As a candidate, Mr. Obama said the CIA's interrogation program should adhere to the same rules that apply to the military, which would prohibit the use of techniques such as waterboarding. He has also said the program should be investigated.

    Upon review, Mr. Obama may decide he wants to keep the road open in certain cases for the CIA to use techniques not approved by the military, but with much greater oversight.

    Advisers caution that few decisions will be made until the team gets a better picture of how the Bush administration actually goes about gathering intelligence, including covert programs, and there could be a greater shift after a full review.

    He is also backpedaling on closing Gitmo. This morning he was for closing Gitmo, and having the detainees face criminal charges in stateside criminal courts, courts using the Uniform Code of Military Justice. This afternoon he started backpedaling on that too.

    And he wiped his new government website to make it harder to pin him down to any one position.

    LOL. Change.

    We just got played.

    BTS

  • 144001
    144001

    He will close Guatanamo, but it won't happen overnight. He is consulting with one of the brightest legal minds in this country, Lawrence Tribe, in an effort to get the job done. It will happen, but there are many legal and practical issues that make this process difficult.

    Who did Bush consult on this issue? Cheney? End of story.

  • hillbilly
    hillbilly

    Gitmo was there... it satisfied some legal things about not being in the US proper.

    Where would you have held those enemy non combatants? Vatican City?

    Hill

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    The new world will be here January 20, 2009 - what changes are you expectin

    Some people are expecting their rent and gas paid.

    Me? I am more realistic.

    Obama can I has PS3 now?

    BTS

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