Did U Know That The Farther U Were Away From NY The Less Spiritual U Were?

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  • Quandary

    Yeah, those Californicators were/are trouble!

  • minimus

    Good one!

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    There were two couples from Bethel that went to our hall in Delaware.

    They were warned by others in Bethel that as they made their way west, the rules tend to be a bit more lax.

    I'm from the west and moved to the east. No wonder I hated the congregations so much.

    The elders were so incredibly controlling here.

  • minimus

    That IS the mindset.

  • james_woods

    This was very real, has been so for years. I actually even heard it in the Congregation Servant's school directly from one of the instructors (Davis) back in around 1970.

    True disdain for all congregations, and by extension all JWs, from California. They liked things of the world, like recreation, way too much.

  • LongHairGal

    I remember hearing all the above stories about regions in the USA and their supposed 'spirituality' or lack thereof.

    But one more rumor I heard was about congregations in the southern USA. (I have nothing against people from the south so I hope nobody on this board takes offense.) I heard there was an impenetrable wall of silence and people would cover over wrongdoing for years, especially if the person involved was related to them.

    I also heard they were unfriendly to anybody who moved there from out of state and even if the person was there for many years the locals in the hall would still treat them like an outsider. If this is true, I can only imagine how they treated single women.


  • blondie

    I was told that too minimus, but always by jws in the NY area. Not that they were more spiritual, just that it was easier for the WTS to check up on them, to control them.

  • White Dove
    White Dove


    Yes, I believe that it is true.

    I moved from the west to the mid-Atlantic region, which is the very top of the southern US.

    I was a single mother and was totally disrespected by the elders and never invited to others' homes.

    The only exception was a white sister who looked like she was trapped in the org by her elder husband, but kept the facade going.

    She invited me a couple of times to her house.

    I could never get close to anyone, but not for the lack of trying.

    I told the PO's wife who is black (I'm white) that we never get together to do anything and that we should sometime.

    She said that she was way to busy with pioneering and other things that it would not be possible.

    It was before a meeting and she was sitting in her seat with her nose in a Reasoning book.

    She didn't even look up at me.

    I showed up for service one morning and was assigned to her car group in her car.

    When she found out she asked one of the other sisters while pointing at me with me watching, "How's SHE gonna do it?"

    I turned red I was so embarrassed!

    I found myself driving my own car with another sister as a partner.

    We had an about 1/2 black and 1/2 white congregation and each kept to their own color scheme.

    Racism is alive and well in that congregation.

    I invited people to my house for lunch or dinner and was always rebuffed, never invited to theirs.

    Being new and a single mother going into a southern congregation was heartbreaking experience.

    Oh, and add to that the fact that I needed interpreters in a place that had never met a deaf person.

    It was awful.

  • Shawn10538

    This is true. I have heard it repeated many times.

  • Aculama

    CA- home of the sun, fun, and the damned.

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