Ruminations on the Whole WTBTS Mess. Part 1.

by LoneWolf 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • LoneWolf
    LoneWolf

    Hi, Folks,

    Hmmm. I’ve bitten myself off a pretty good chunk here, so bear with me as I try to figure out where to start.

    Two things I’d better say up front, though: None of this is meant to be in any way, a devaluing of the phenomenal work that’s been done by anyone here on the board. That includes the crew who put in so much time and work on the UN scandal, Silentlambs and the Dateline program, The Liberal Elder and the Blood issue, or anyone else. Rather, my endeavor is to paint an overall picture of our circumstances and possibilities with a view towards the use of these tools that they have provided us, as well as fill in a few of the chinks.

    Secondly, I’m a bit under the gun, as on the third of December, I’ll be needing to leave for about three weeks. One of the trucking companies that I’ve worked for before has a contract hauling mail for the upcoming holiday season, and I’m not in any position to turn down the $22.00 an hour that they pay. I’ll be making three round trips a week from here (Cottage Grove, Oregon) to the Bay area. That’s approximately 550 miles each way. Therefore, I’m going to try to post as much of this matter as possible before that time.

    We are, in short, at war. This is not a war of our making or desire. It is a war that has been imposed upon us by the simple expedient of demanding that we submit our integrity and consciences to other people’s will, or face the consequences. We chose to face the consequences for many reasons depending on the individual, however, the prime ones revolve around scriptural principle and/or the fact that we had to be able to live with ourselves.

    Our greatest weakness right now is that we are fragmented, and that is for good reason too. We’ve been taught all our lives that thinking for ourselves is a sin, and that unquestioning obedience is of paramount importance. When the crunch came, we were scorned and ridiculed, publicly held up as wicked and unworthy and shunned as though we had the plague. This makes any unifying extremely difficult, for the psychological effects of such treatment are profound. It is hard to trust after that. When we come on forums such as this one, we tend to lash out at one another, forgetting that the others too have reasons for mistrust. Our enemies use this to keep us fragmented and impotent. A mechanism needs to be set up to counteract that influence. I’ll have some suggestions on that in a later post.

    Perhaps foremost in my mind right now is that I don’t want you to be getting the idea that I have the desire to set myself up as some sort of guru or religious leader. That is the furthest thing from my mind for many reasons that I won’t go into now, except for this one: Life is uncertain, especially for truckers. It becomes even more so when the doctors find a small patch of melanoma on one’s temple, as happened about a month ago. (We think they got it all.) My prime concern is that what knowledge I may possess may be publicized in such a way that others may benefit from it regardless of whether I am around or not.

    It is in that spirit then, that I offer the ensuing posts.

    But again, where to start? For lack of a better idea, I’d like to start with my own situation here in this congregation, both because it is interesting and it is possible that it may be of some use. A few of you are aware of some of the details, so this will be an update for you.

    About a year ago over on the old H2O board, I posted some extremely blunt challenges to the WTBTS. I did this openly, using my real name and address. (I still have copies of a few of them, if anyone wishes to read them.)

    Shortly after that, I noticed an influx of some very high octane elders coming into this congregation, which surprised me as this is somewhat of a backwater. These are men who would stand out in any crowd of elders. What especially distinguished them was the way they handled the congregation. If you or I had been treated this way, we would probably still be in. I was intrigued, but not yet interested to the point of looking closer at the situation.

    It wasn’t too long until my immediate family was being given the same treatment. After my wife had some gallstones taken out, one of them brought supper over one night. Then when my 15 year-old son gave a talk in the School, another one of them, acting as school servant, had us all dying with laughter when he said that he was giving him a “W” on the counsel slip. He explained with a big grin that it wasn’t that he needed to work on anything, but that he’d done such a beautiful job, he wanted to see if he could do it again.

    Needless to say, these things caught my attention. I don’t need to explain to you how families with DFed heads are usually treated. I figured it was time to do some homework.

    Contacting some of our mutual friends here on the board, I sent out feelers as to their backgrounds and connections. The result was highly intriguing. Most of the information that came back was about the obvious leader of this bunch, one Earnest Garrett. Scuttlebutt had it that he did a considerable amount of research for the Awake! magazine and had deep roots in Brooklyn Bethel. One of his acquaintances was Ciro Aulicino, and he had even contributed a few articles for the magazine itself. (Two of them are “We Do Not Blame God” in the 7-22-89 issue concerning the death of his son who was a steward on board the jet that went down at Lockerbie, and “Removing Misconceptions About Jehovah’s Witnesses” in the 11-22-96 issue. His picture is on page 18.)

    Other sources brought in that he was a friend of the mayor of San Francisco, Willie Brown. It seems that one of the ways the problem was solved in Moscow, Russia when an assembly was cancelled by the authorities at the last minute, was that he asked Willie to call the Moscow mayor and question the situation. As San Francisco is Moscow’s sister city, that carried the day. There’s more, but these are some highlights.

    I’ll simplify the ensuing events. I was then contacted. It was through a third party and the message consisted primarily of an invitation to submit a request for reinstatement. In this manner they would feel free to speak to me at length on any subject. As I’ve had a long history of teaching the local elders the error of their ways when they got out of line, and made no bone of my attitude towards my disfellowshipping, etc., I found that startling.

    After considerable thought, I wrote a letter to them, declining the invitation. I’m posting it under a separate thread, “Letter to Garrett.” If you read it, you will see why I was and am astonished to find that no change whatsoever has been noticed in the way that they treat my family. In fact, in the middle of the investigation of the WTBTS affiliation with the UN, I drew up a brief synopsis of it and delivered it to Garrett, asking respectfully for an explanation of the matter so that I and my family could understand.

    My request was taken very seriously and with considerable astonishment on his part. Nothing was even hinted at concerning the “unreliability” of the Internet or that the whole thing could be concocted by “apostates”. As he said very bluntly, “We’re going to get to the bottom of this!”

    Meanwhile, I’d shown the material to my cousin, a man in his 60’s and a retired police officer. He’d been around the organization all of his life, and his mother was harassing him about getting on the stick and coming into the flock. He showed her the proof of the WT being an NGO affiliated with the UN, and she promptly laid a whole truckload of concrete blocks edgewise. Going to Garrett, she asked him to correct such an impression.

    He’d looked into it some by this time and told them both that it was true, using the explanation that later became the official line. Some weeks later, they arranged a short meeting with my wife and son after the sessions and explained things the same way. Again, all through this I have detected no change whatsoever in their attitudes towards my family or me.

    During all this time, there were a series of officials from Bethel that came in to give talks here in this congregation. Usually they would give a “service talk” on Saturday night, and then a special talk on Sunday. There were three of them, as follows, in order.

    1. Greg Olds, Legal Department. Highlights: details of some of the legal cases they’ve handled and the victories, especially the child custody cases. Assured the congregation that should they ever find themselves in need of a lawyer due to their faith, that they had a free lawyer available to them.

    2. Abrahamson, Secretary-Treasurer. Which corporation I forget, but it’s one of the prime ones. Highlights: This was just after my letter to Garrett. You will note I hit the business about the brothers being “inspired” pretty hard in that letter. The title of his Sunday talk was “How Can We Claim to be Guided by God’s Holy Spirit if We Are Not Inspired?” The talk was an hour and a half long, and somewhere in the center was this statement: “We can claim to be guided by God’s holy spirit because the Bible was inspired by holy spirit and we follow the Bible.” (That’s as my memory recreates it.)

    3. On this third one I must apologize to all, for I’ve forgotten his name. He’s the head of the Society’s Hospital Liaison Committee though, so it should be easy enough to come up with it. Plus, I waited until the last minute to look for my little pocket tape recorder, and couldn’t find it. Wouldn’t you know it, this one was the most interesting of the three.

    He expounded at length on the new blood policies. He was personable, low-key and persuasive, but in watching the faces in the congregation around me, the puzzlement mixed with astonishment was obvious. One particular passage stood out for me. He was lamenting the death of a sister in California (as I recollect) due to refusing blood. He was saying that the death was totally unnecessary, as with the new technology using blood fractions, etc., there was a lot that could have been done to avoid it. He was practically begging the congregation to contact his department in such circumstances so that such loss of life can be avoided. Even I had my mouth open.

    Now, I am by no means claiming that all of this was for my benefit. I’m not that conceited. However, these and other details leave me wondering, for if it’s all coincidence, it is a phenomenal one. Regardless, I see no reason that I can’t utilize it wherever possible.

    There is one amusing sidelight. It seems that the surrounding congregations are getting wind of the special talks being given here in this congregation. The second speaker had two congregations show up. The third had three. What happens next I don’t have the foggiest, as we were in there like sardines this last time. I guess jealousy is alive and well, LOL.

    Enough for this time. Next: An unusual form of warfare.

    LoneWolf

  • Klaus Vollmer
    Klaus Vollmer

    >>He was lamenting the death of a sister in California (as I recollect) due to refusing blood. He was saying that the death was totally unnecessary, as with the new technology using blood fractions, etc., there was a lot that could have been done to avoid it. <<

    I guess someone who does not give blood as donation has no right to receive any blood fragment.
    Blood donations are a social service for the community of mankind.

    Your suggestion to start a campaign is not old.
    THe was lamenting the death of a sister in California (as I recollect) due to refusing blood. He was saying that the death was totally unnecessary, as with the new technology using blood fractions, etc., there was a lot that could have been done to avoid it.
    Your suggestion to start up a new campaign is not worse.
    There should be available a download in different languages about the most actual things
    eg. vaccinations
    blood
    1933 declaration
    UN-scandal
    etc. so that facts and figures are shown.

    You will recognize - in other cases nothing will change

  • Mr Magoo
    Mr Magoo

    As I'm at work, this reply will only be a short one, even though I feel that this post deserves much more attention.

    I'm quite sure that a more coordinated campaign would be of great benefit to "us".

    The most coordinated we have at this point is - as i see it - web sites like this one and e.g. the watchtower observer.

    I have several times thought of starting up a Danish site with informatione in Danish, but decided that in stead of setting up a new site, perhaps a special Danish area of the watchtower observer would be a better idea. Mainly due to the massive amount of information here, but also because the site has a lot of visitors. I've never contacted Kent regarding this though.

    Well...actually all I want to say is that:

    I think any type of coordination would be great, and I would be more than happy to translate any information into Danish (or vice versa) if needed.

    Kind Regards
    Mr Magoo

  • blondie
    blondie

    Just a note, many people who are not witnesses also do not donate blood but willing would accept it. Until 9-11-01, the Red Cross was woefully short of supplies. Fortunately, the hospitals and doctors do not require a note from the Red Cross or other blood donation facility before allowing blood products to be administered to a patient. Some people even donate for purely economic reasons as well, no altruism there.

  • metatron
    metatron

    Lone Wolf, one point!

    Our being fragmented is a huge advantage. This is classic
    guerilla warfare with many decentralized cyberwarriors
    fighting a centralized, evil government. If they stop one
    "leader", dozens of others pop up. They are mired in a
    true dilemma - the internet is becoming a standard part
    of life like TV or the telephone - yet, they are getting
    pounded by its exposure. If they try to forbid it or condemn
    it, they will focus attention on it - or worse, create a
    "forbidden fruit" effect where curiosity will drive
    countless Witlesses to privately investigate.

    In addition to this, as "apostate" information of high
    quality increases, they run an unyielding risk of being
    compromised by sudden conversions. For example, I imagine
    that df'ing the brother connected with the Tacoma parking
    scandal cost them plenty. The Society may fall victim to
    subtle blackmail because they fear getting exposed by
    people who know their secrets. I suspect this is already
    happening with elders locally and accounts for a lot of
    the corrupt behavior that is overlooked.

    metatron

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Lone Wolf,

    I found your posts fascinating. I knew Garrett's son Paul when I was in Bethel; he was an outstanding young man, the soul of kindness and compassion, and very much a liberal thinker.

    It irritates me that the speaker whose name you forgot had the effrontery to suggest that a particular sister's death could have been avoided because it seemed to put the onus on the victims and the ones close to the situation to initiate a contact with the Society.

    Can anyone explain to me why the Society refuses to print a comprehensive article, ormpolicy statement on blood, detailing in plain English, perhaps on a chart, what they consider acceptable and what is banned? In view of their many vacillations and changes, and the immense cost in human suffering, setting the record straight once and for all would save many lives, including innocent children... without question.

    Unless or until they finally come to their senses and end this heartless and ridiculous policy of treating the acceptance of blood as an act of wickedness and return it to the realm of a matter of conscience, human decency demands they do their utmost to let the JWs know which treatments will incur punishment and which not.

  • beroea
    beroea

    Til Mr. Magoo

    En dansker på linien - det er ikke tit. Hvor kommer du fra og er du ude eller inde. Du er velkommen til at kontakte mig via mail. Jeg er stadig inde, men har droppet alt omkring kronologi mv.

    beroea

  • Klaus Vollmer
    Klaus Vollmer

    tysk neij dansk
    lets eat smörebröd :-)

  • Trevor Scott
    Trevor Scott
    It irritates me that the speaker whose name you forgot had the effrontery to suggest that a particular sister's death could have been avoided because it seemed to put the onus on the victims and the ones close to the situation to initiate a contact with the Society.

    In my previous congregation there is a "brother" who is on the Hospital Liaison Committee. He once made essentially the very same comment – that a sister's death could have been avoided if she had just contacted the Society before she refused a life-saving blood transfusion. What insolence! This woman followed the party line to her grave. Her death and countless others be on the shoulders of those running this sham religion.

    LoneWolf, I commend you for your post. I for one am committed to fighting this war.

    TS,

    Did the Watchtower Society "support" the scarlet beast of Revelation?
    : http://www.geocities.com/watchtowersociety/beast.htm

  • LDH
    LDH

    And just think, those listening will NOW have the impression that the HLC(Hospital Liason Committee) can help them SAVE their lives if they are ever in need of blood.

    Won't they be surprised when the HLC committee members show up directing the Doctors as to what course of treatment the PATIENT will accept!

    I really wish you had your tape recorder, LoneWolf.

    The other thing is that, by bieng fagmented, we are free to focus on issues which are of greatest import in our lives. Therefore, other doubters will hopefully come across the trail of someone whose story they can identify with.

    Lisa

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