Sept29-Oct5 "Jehovah Will Not Leave His Loyal Ones" Name Jehovah is used 21 times, Jesus is mentioned 3 times. The FDS is, of course, mentioned.
Highlights;
Par 4 - rulership of Solomon is mentioned as "rightly foreshadowing the future Millennial Reign of Chris Jesus". So, the reign of an imperfect human ruler foreshadows the perfect rule of Christ? This is especially galling when you go onto par5, which states "Solomon ceased to obey Jehovah's laws and became increasingly oppressive." Are the WTS implying, subtly, that Jesus' rule will be oppressive? This is interesting, as they later mention that Christ has been ruling for nearly 100 years. During that 100 years what has Christ done? Aren't things becoming more oppressive for the typical self-persecuting JW? Aren't things becoming harder? Yet, Christ is ruling as King. This also throws up the conundrum - if the Millennial Reign of Christ lasts 1000 years, then is he 10% into that reign? Is it, in fact, Christ that is responsible for the hardships being experienced by JWs around the globe? He is, afterall, King in heaven...
Par6 goes a bit further by quoting 1 Ki 11:9-11 where is says, "I shall without fail rip the kingdom away from off you, and I shall certainly give it to your servant." Later in the article it becomes apparent that the WTS have in fact done this, ripping Jesus authority away from Him and giving it to the FDS.
Par9 is super-confusing. It talks about how Jesus has been ruling in heaven for almost 100 years. It then says, "Soon he (Christ) will bring complete relief to those fearing God's name." To back this up it cites Rev 11:15-18 where there is no mention of the name Jehovah in the Greek text. v17 talks about the Lord ruling as King. Didn't the WTS just say in the paragraph that Christ is King? The verses in Revelation say that the Lord (who is ruling as King) would bring to ruin those not fearing his name. Whose name? The WTS say Jehovah, but it's clear from their comments in the paragraph and the Greek text in Revelation that the name is that of the Lord, Jesus.
Par10 discusses God's kingdom being a real government. "Our allegiance belongs to Jehovah God and (wait for it) his arrangement." Typically, Jesus is removed from the discussion even though Matt 28:18 confirms that Jesus has the authority, that He is King and it's His rule that has to be respected. Allegiance, according to the paragraph, does not involved Christ the King, but rather Jehovah and his arrangement, which is WTS-speak for organisation.
Par13 talks about apostate influences, both through governments and through Christendom. "Christendom's clergy and other presumptuous ones (aka apostate former JWs) have tried to claim the spiritual priesthood for themselves." So, the WTS has never presumptuously done this? The paragraph continues, "However, only among true Christians do we find genuine anointed ones". Of course, no evidence is cited.
Par14 continues with the apostate-bashing. "We reject the false claims of those who profess to be serving God and at the same time dishonour him by their conduct." Quite a statement, considering the content of this study article, and particular when you factor in John 5:23 "in order that all may honour the Son just as they honour the Father". Do the WTS honour the Son in the same way they honour the Father? Jehovah (who they claim is the Father) is talked about 21 times in this article, whereas the Son gets mentioned only 3 times, one of those occasions occurs in the following paragraph in typical WTS-speak.
Par15 has the much awaited mention of the FDS. "With hearts full of gratitude, we stay close to "the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time." Notice how they lift this one part of Jesus' parable of the FDS straight out, omitting the fact that Jesus was asking a rhetorical question. Thus, this question becomes a statement of identification. They go on to say, "Christ has appointed this slave "over all his belongings." So, if Christ is ruling as King, and has been doing so for 100 years as per Par9, the WTS are teaching that His "belongings" actually belong to them. Compare what I wrote re. Par6 above. If we don't understand a certain position taken by "the slave class", the paragraph goes on to say, that is no reason to reject it, or "return to Satan's world. Instead, loyalty (to the WTS) will move us to act humbly and wait on Jehovah to clarify matters." Typically, the WTS don't feel any humility or 'waiting on Jehovah' is necessary for them. Instead, the rank and file must humbly and loyally wait on other imperfect humans to adjust their imperfect and fluctuating interpretation of Scripture. Of course, this teaching completely leaves Christ out of the equation, even though the Bible teaches that He is head of the congregation and that He has all authority in heaven and on earth. So, if anyone was going to sort out any spurious teaching, it would have to be the Christ, what with Him being head, and all.
Bizarrely, par19 makes this weird statement;
"When faced with trials or apostate ideas or when carrying out challenging assignments, God's loyal ones can be confident of Jehovah's guidance and support."
Notice anything odd about that sentence? "God's loyal ones can be confident of Jehovah's guidance..." If Jehovah is God, and vice versa, why refer to them using two terms in the same sentence. Those loyal to God can expect Jehovah's guidance is what they're saying. Isn't the use of Jehovah redundant in that sentence? Did they have a 'Jehovah' quota to make up and threw it in there right at the end?
Further apostasy in the WT; Sept 29 - Oct 5 Study article dissected.
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Gopher
Thanks for the breakdown. The mindless assault on "apostates" by the WTS continues ad nauseum.
Bizarrely, par19 makes this weird statement;
"When faced with trials or apostate ideas or when carrying out challenging assignments, God's loyal ones can be confident of Jehovah's guidance and support."WTF?
Apostate ideas are like some overwhelming trial? Give me a (long coffee) break. Are apostate ideas so strong that po-widdle rank-and-file JW's just cannot cope?
If the WTS teachings were really the truth, they'd have nothing of which to be scared.
But they are scared, to the point of irrational paranoia, as this article seems to clearly show.
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WTWizard
I noticed how the Washtowel bashes apostates. Yet, they themselves are often blatantly wrong in their teachings to the point that they have to rule that, even if anyone can prove with the New World Translation that they are wrong, they are still supposed to believe and teach the wrong viewpoint until the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger itself fixes the error. I suppose that means the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger knows they are wrong--as often, it's the apostates that are right.
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Will Power
Par 4 - rulership of Solomon is mentioned as "rightly foreshadowing the future Millennial Reign of Chris Jesus". So, the reign of an imperfect human ruler foreshadows the perfect rule of Christ? This is especially galling when you go onto par5, which states "Solomon ceased to obey Jehovah's laws and became increasingly oppressive." Are the WTS implying, subtly, that Jesus' rule will be oppressive? This is interesting, as they later mention that Christ has been ruling for nearly 100 years. During that 100 years what has Christ done? Aren't things becoming more oppressive for the typical self-persecuting JW? Aren't things becoming harder? Yet, Christ is ruling as King. This also throws up the conundrum - if the Millennial Reign of Christ lasts 1000 years, then is he 10% into that reign? Is it, in fact, Christ that is responsible for the hardships being experienced by JWs around the globe? He is, afterall, King in heaven...
I haven't read the article but just from what you've written here - could they (WT) be trying another approach? Since the trick to double think is exactly that - a trick. This could be the best one of them all!!!
If there is such a high turnover in memberships - and clearly statistics show that there is - why wouldn't they say that maybe the society™ has had some "leaders" that ceased to obey and have become oppressive. It is just an expansion of the memorized phrase "they are just imperfect men doing their best to serve". Now they can PREDICT their own oppressive behaviour and exercise it too! See! we told you the leaders would be bad first - then the end will come - then the new rule will start....
Jesus only "turned his attention" to us in 1914,NOW things are happening just as they should - yada yada
This would excuse in the worst way the pedophile problem, flip flops, false prophesies, lack of love, EVERYTHING. !!
AND ONLY THE LOYAL ONES TO JEHOVAH WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE THIS!!! -
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So then, many of the active jws that post here can rebutt this insanity at their next meeting, right?
I mean, it's okay for them to continue associating online. Why not take it offline? Tell the writers of your litter-ature, BY WRITTEN LETTER TO WTBTS, that this article misrepresents itself. That YOUR sssociation with apostates is nothing like what is stated in the contents.
Let them know that you intend on sharing this good news with your congregants at the next meeting...as an announcement.
{{ shakes heads and comes out of her daydream }}
~sigh, if only it were that simple~
sKally
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MadGiant
This probably will make no sense, Sorry I am just trying to understand:
PAR4, PAR6, PAR9 & PAR10- What I understand is this; Christ is not doing his job, so they are preparing themselves (GB) to commit mutiny and overthrown Christ.
PAR13, PAR14 & PAR15- What I understand is this; the GB is preparing the people for the aftermath after the hostile takeover (Jesus failed to perform so they are following Jehovah instructions). Apostates are talking about how the WTO is manipulating the scriptures and that now the WT can make a new bible because they now truly and only represent Jehovah interest with Jesus Christ out of the equation. So they are starting the discredit campaign in advance.
In shot in the future they can make their own set of rules, their own bible, without having to be afraid of independent thinking.
Ismael
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Kosonen
In this weeks Bible reading (1Cor chap 10-16) I met an intresting verse : Nobody can say: Jesus is Lord! exept by holy spirit. -1Cor 12:3
So, what does it say if we only say Jehovah is Lord?
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yadda yadda 2
Very good thread with important points. Thank you.
Profound comment too Kosonen!
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Kosonen
Thank's for appreciation!
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Mrs. Fiorini
"When faced with trials or apostate ideas or when carrying out challenging assignments, God's loyal ones can be confident of Jehovah's guidance and support."
Notice anything odd about that sentence? "God's loyal ones can be confident of Jehovah's guidance..." If Jehovah is God, and vice versa, why refer to them using two terms in the same sentence. Those loyal to God can expect Jehovah's guidance is what they're saying. Isn't the use of Jehovah redundant in that sentence? Did they have a 'Jehovah' quota to make up and threw it in there right at the end?The WT has always had a problem confusing what they call Jehovah's Organization (themselves) with Jehovah. I think it was a freudian slip.