Could the Large Hadron Collider open a doorway to heaven?

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  • truthseeker

    Silly speculation, but imagine if the Large Hadron Collider opened a door to the spirit world, which would be considered another dimension. Perhaps the LHC will reveal demunz.

    The quest is not without controversy: Scientists say there's a chance that the LHC could create microscopic black holes, a phenomenon never before observed on Earth. They hasten to add that the tiny singularities will instantly pop out of existence, but that hasn't stopped critics from trying to block the collider's startup. Two of the critics have filed suit in federal court in Hawaii, seeking the suspension of LHC operations until more studies are done.

    Beyond the God ParticleWhat if physicists don't find the God Particle they are expecting to see? Ellis acknowledged that was a possibility. "This might be a little bit difficult to explain to our politicians, that here they gave us 10 billion of whatever, your favorite currency unit, and we didn't find the Higgs boson," he said.

    But Ellis has faith that even then, there'd be something to discover — maybe something even weirder and more wonderful than the Higgs boson.

    "Probably the most likely option then might be extra dimensions," Ellis said. "And there are some ideas where if you have some additional dimensions of space, you could somehow do the job that the Higgs does in the Standard Model."

    For years, string theorists have noted that their equations come out better if they assume that the universe has nine or 10 spatial dimensions instead of the three we can perceive. The LHC could provide the first evidence of those extra dimensions: Some theorists say the collisions could produce anomalously heavy particles, suggesting that part of their momentum was going into the extradimensional realm. Harvard physicist Lisa Randall estimates that the LHC could nail down the evidence for extra dimensions in five years.

  • DoomVoyager

    The purpose of the Large Hadron Collider is just to investigate whether really small explosions can be awesome too.

  • james_woods

    I hope I should presume that some of the above was said in jest?

    On the mini black holes, (and there is doubt that this machine could even form one) - they have been shown to rapidly evaporate due to quantum radiative effects and offer no credible threat.

    The LHC is designed to explore the possibility of the Higgs Boson, a theoretical particle that is supposed to arbitrate the mass ratio of all the familiar known particles. The previous version of the Cern accelerator (the proton-anit-proton collider, back in the 1980s, proved the existence of the expected W+, W- and Z particles, thus confirming theories of the electromagnetic and weak nuclear forces.

    Some string theorists (enthusiasts for the extra dimensions), suspect that a second form of Z boson could prove the dimensional framework of certain types of the theory called M (membrane) theory. In any case, so far -

    Nobody climbed any stairway to heaven or saw God.

  • BurnTheShips

    Silly speculation, as is speculation that the LHC could destroy the planet/universe. LHC energy levels occur regularly out there, such as in supernova explosions. The Universe is still ticking right along.


  • SixofNine



    Call me cynical, but I suspect any human's concern is weighted something along the order of: 99.99999% concern for the "planet" vs .00001% concern for the "universe".

  • mustang

    "Stairway 2 Heaven or "Highway 2 Hell"

    I doubt that anything will be that dramatic


  • james_woods

    To put this into perspective, I believe that I read somewhere that the accelerated mass of the "proton shot" (even with the enormous input of electrical energy into the accelerating ring, is only about that of an insect...this is due to the mass increase as an object approaches the speed of light.

    In the old proton'/antiproton collider (same ring, but 1980s technology) they hit a kicker magnet to eject the protons into a target of plate steel when they wanted to power it down. The anti-protons, (which you would think would be about the most dangerous things on earth) were so few in number that they did not worry about them - they just let them wander off after the guidance magnets went off. Presumably they met their fate in some atmospheric collision somewhere in the tunnel, just like the zillions of cosmic rays coming down in the atmosphere.

    CERN director Carlo Rubbio's book "Search for the W & Z" (1981) is a really good and still relevant reference on how the accelarator and the detectors work.


    I`ve seen the Doorway to Heaven!..It`s on my Refrigerator..Laughing Mutley...OUTLAW

  • snowbird
    this is due to the mass increase as an object approaches the speed of light.

    Just as Einstein (or his wife) postulated.

    Instead of a doorway to heaven, how about a corridor back to the future?

    This is so exciting!


  • james_woods
    Just as Einstein (or his wife) postulated.

    What are you saying? - it was Einstein.

    For legitimate examples of women in science who did not get a fair share of credit, how about Madame Wu (Chinese-American 1950s experimenter who found the charge/parity violation), or the female assistant of Watson & Crick who did all the X-Ray spectrometry to prove the structure of DNA? Her name was Rosalind Franklin, and she is unfairly forgotten today.

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