What turned me away from the WTBTS.... PART 1

by megawatt 6 Replies latest jw experiences

  • megawatt
    megawatt

    Sigh...

    Wished I would've introduced myself proper in my first post here, but having the fear of being found out too quickly or not being the right time made me censored myself from revealing too much info. Recently though, I just felt the need to get this off my chest, despite the possible risk of being called out, which several JWs in good standing are aware of my exact situation. I registered at the new site (JW support something) since theres some buzz of this site is going off line, but hadn't received my confirmation email yet. Anyways, here it goes...

    Everything started around 1 year ago, despite the doubts lingering in my head for the past 8 to 10 years, just subtle feelings of something isn't right or not making sense, leaving it as me not being smart enough to comprehend (I can't believe I thought that way) and that in due time, things will make sense.

    Not being a citizen of this country, even though I was raised here, married an american and all of my immediate family for the exception of my mother, are US citizens (BORN IN) and not knowing anything else but the US, I felt it was time I became a citizen . Even though I qualified for naturalization years ago, it's been recently where I began the process of persuing it feeling that there was no issue of obtaining as JW. With the issue of being a conscientious objector, regarding the oath, I sought the help of an immigration lawyer and of course EXPECTED the unconditional support in this matter from my local elders, since I am standing up for the WTBTS and jehovah. I was able to get everything in order regarding paper work within a week and the only thing left was to get a letter from my local congregation stating that I was a member of such congregation, with an offical letter head of the local congo, which is a requirment of US LAW when submitting an application for citizenship as a conscientious objector.

    Now, not being a stellar witness and to be honest, due to my demanding work schedule, meetings were a 2nd place when it came my priorities, even though I still felt it was the truth. I was putting an hour or so on a month on field service, but remembered having casual conversations with many people not turning in my monthly time, cause frankly I felt that god knew what I was doing, and if I forgot turn in time, I didn't lose any sleep over it.

    As the weeks went by and then became almost a month since I asked my local elders for an offical letter stating that I was a baptized witness, I followed up with a call.

    ME: Hi, It's brother megawatt. Just calling to see if anyone has written a letter yet regarding my citizenship, since basically that's the only thing left that's holding me back from submitting my application.

    Elder: Uh, hmm. Let me findout what's going and I'll get back to ya'.

    At this point I had to explained to the lawyer we had little delay getting that letter, and that I'll get back to her when everything is cleared up. She didn't understand why such a delay, but then again she didn't agree or understood with the reasoning on submitting an application an conscientious objector according to WTBTS. And quite honestly to me, it didn't add up either, but being a loyal JW, I never dared to question.

    Well, another 2 calls were made within about month and half of the follow up call, and with the last call ending with the elder asking what is it I needed in the letter again! I couldn't believe it, here's a brother in need asking from his elders, a letter that would satisfy the requirements to become a US citizen as conscientious objector not compromising his integrity to Jehovah. Is it the fact I wasn't putting 5 to 10 hours a month in field service? Or that I missed most of the weekly meetings due to work? What was it? What happened if I needed the aid of the brothers to be there if I was in the hospital and was dealt with blood issue, would they respond or was this veiwed as not as important?

    Finally I got my answer when I called 5 or 6th time, lol..

    ME: Hey, it's mega. Has the BOE prepared the letter yet?

    Elder: Well, we actually inquired from the society about this issue. Unfortunately, the society's stance is we try to abstain from writting letters.

    ME: How is that so? I researched from the publications and didn't seem like there's an issue with writting an offical letter from the congregation. Sister jane and Brother joe had letters prepared for them just recently in 03 ' and 05', is this something that's new?

    Elder: Well it's something that was recently adopted. Let us know if it does become more of an issue. Talk to you later.

    I was in shock. Basically, these elders claimg that they were acting in direct orders from the WTBTS were told not to write anymore letters regarding citizenship, but I knew that was lie. I confide with another elder regarding their decision, and it didn't add up to him either. He told me he would take care of it and not to worry. About a couple days later, he gives me a letter to submit with my application as an elder of my congregation, minus the official letter head of the congregation. It more or less, a personal reference. Either way, I was truly greatful for what he did and felt that it wasn't the society but more or less an error in judgement of a few elders with no insight.

    After a few months of submitting my application, a notice came in by mail for my interview with a time and place. Ever so confident, I truly felt that I was shoe in.

    I get to the INS offices bright and early for the scheduled date of my interview, but I had a something in the back of my head telling me something might go wrong. Finally, my name was called and the interveiwing processed began. Right off the bat, I could tell this guy was waiting to get a piece of me. After swearing to tell the truth and passing the civics test with flying colors, he started drilling me about my faith, who I was and why I can't bear arms for the US or perform non-combative services, ect. I never waivered in my stance and felt out of all this I was giving a good witness (YUCK) and that I didn't want to give the INS officer the satisfaction of making me sweat.

    I felt I was clear and nearing the end of my interview, he pauses for a moment.

    Officer: Hmm. Theres something I need YOU to verify.

    ME: OK. What's that, sir?

    Officer: Your letter from your church. It does not have the required letterhead and address along with the contact info of your local congregation, which is required by law when applying as a conscientious objector.

    ME: The letter you have there is from my local elder at my congregation. It has all of his personal and contact information, is that not good enough?

    Officer: Unfortunately, it's not. I'm going to have to submit this for further review.

    ME: Alright.

    I just got up and left. Feeling rejected, it was at that point I was confused, angry and somewhat helpless. Angry at the fact, that I was doing, so I thought, was the right thing in the eyes of god! Confused that WTBTS and my local elders left me out to dry, despite the fact I'm doing this according to their rules. And those are the exact words I uttered as I was walking out the building. It was at that exact moment that I realized there's something really wrong. Not the with US governement, not with me, but with the WTBTS.

    Later that night at home, I told the wife we need to find out what's going on here regarding the WTBTS and how they come with the logic of allegiance. It help whatsoever diving directly right into the bound volumes and publications, leaving my wife and I frustrated with wtbts verbage and logic. Everything was a conscience matter! Well jesus, I would've marked yes on everything and left it as is, and be done with this mess.

    After the wife went to sleep later that night, I began to do internet research on the word allegiance (google), mainly surfing the wtbts site. Welp, somehow I stumbled on the Acronym NGO and the Jehovah's witnesses in one of my google searches. What I turned up kept me awake till about 2 am that night. From that night on appoximately 8 months ago, I have feverishly surfed this site and others like it almost every night, READ C.O.C, currently reading Gentile times reconsidered. I have lost friends (conditional of course) and family, with my wife having her ups and downs, but finally seeing the WTBTS for what is, a "doctrine changing by force of circumstance, high control cult" group. It's a struggle for her since there's a lot more at stake (family,job) so she's reluctant. But shes not big into change and takes to it very slowly, so I do expect this to be a long process.

    To be continued...

    Sorry for grammar!

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth

    thanks so much for sharing megawatt....I can appreciate what went through a little bit, wife became a citizen last year, but at that time had no jw activity, so we did not need to be concerned with that, with all the hoops you go through, I could not imagine having to jump through that additional hoop!

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    Wow, a lot a very emotional things have happened to you recently. I wish you all the best in sorting things out and moving on to a happier life.

  • Locutus of Borg
    Locutus of Borg

    megawatt . . this is a very good life vs. Borg story. Looking forward to the rest!!

    They are two faced, lying Mofo's, aren't they?

  • FuzzyPaul
    FuzzyPaul

    As a citizen you stil have freedom to object after, but what are the chances. You ARE allowed to defend yourself - your country and family - Jesus never meant for slap the other cheek to turn into getting beaten to a pulp! My parents were prisoners of Hitlers takeover of Europe. My Polish Dad was in a slave labor camp from 1939 to 1945. One mis-step and he could have been abused even to death. Many people are buried from the French beaches to Germany that went to rescue my parents. Abraham did as much. There is no scriptural story to support an absolutely not point of view.

    I left and started going to Protestant churches two years ago. I have never been happier. JWs DO NOT KNOW HOW OTHERS WORSHIP. JWs are told what goes on there and I found nothing offensive at all at any of the 12 churches I tried. Christian radio will let you share good sermons with your daughter. Mood radio in the am has many. Aleister Begg, The Urban Alternative, Turning point are all good.

    Churches have mid-week stuff too. Call around. AWANA is a Southern Baptist kids memorize scriptures for prizes. Not boring. I had to resort to tough love. I argued back with twice the fervor as I was attacked. It is worth it. When you lose your fear you will have an immediate win. It is forbidden to fear anyone but God.

    Dismiss the following thoughts: So what? She is going to be angry! What if? Oh-no what-if?

    Take each opportunity to just go! Visit the pastor during off hours and talk.

    You will find great spiritual fulfillment in a Baptist church but Assemblies of God is OK and many independents are also. Pray with the pastor.

    My son, then wife, then grand-daughter, then daughter, then younger daughter are now going to a Southern Baptist Church and we love the fellowship. Try dinner nights for the meals. Usually there is no message, just nice people.

    I have never felt so loved!

    Un-learn the WT Salvation by Works from Faith. Ephesians 2:8 is absolutely true as it is read. It can't be both ways - Salvation by faith alone in Christ alone. vs. Salvation by Good deeds or Works. What qualifies one for Salvation is listed in John 3:16 (read it in a Non-JW bible) and Romans 10: 8 But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

    The word of faith is in your mouth and heart. Love reponds to love. Jesus did it all. Just believe is the simple fact. Bad deeds can disqualify or cause one to lose rewards but good deeds do not qualify they will add rewards to our salvation. The WT has re-written verses to hide Salvation by grace (undeserved FAVOR).

    Try for a choice of Bibles to double check the overwhelming evidence against the New World Order Translation of The Free-Mason based Illuminatti endorsed Watchtower religion. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=

    Regards,

    Paul

  • AnneB
    AnneB

    As far as I'm aware, WT says it's ok to take the regular oath of citizenship with the mental reservation that if anything the USA requires is in violation of God's law you naturally wouldn't comply, just as any natural-born "true Christian" citizen wouldn't. There was a Questions from Readers on it in the early 1980's if I remember correctly. Maybe Blondie or one of the others who has access to WT literature would be able to find the item and post it for you.

  • mary stewart
    mary stewart

    man that sucks! hope all works out? btw, what country are you from? or is that private?

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