A Socialist defends Americans

by Rex B13 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    For all of the anti-American cynics in range, here is a commentary from one of your own that plays a different tune, albeit a Socialist one. Do any of our regulars sound much like this woman named 'Raven', cited in the article?
    (BTW, I READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE)

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/sep2001/rads-s22.shtml

    Enjoy!
    Rex

  • Commie Chris
    Commie Chris

    I read the article and agree with almost everything in it. I have not read any posts on this site which reflect the ideas of Raven quoted in the article. Who are you accusing?

    Like many others on this site, I have the greatest respect for Americans, and find many things about the U.S. great. That in no way lessens my disgust at the foreign policy followed by successive U.S. governments of supporting many of the most repressive and corrupt regimes and most violent terrorist movements of this century. There is nothing "anti-American" about opposing a U.S. foreign policy which has brought massive suffering to much of the world in order to protect profits and markets for U.S. multi-national corporations. In fact, I believe that the vast majority of Americans would also benefit from ending their government's policy of protecting and promoting corrupt repressive dictatorships.

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    Hi Chris,
    They will recognize themselves and probably crawl back under their usual rocks. ;-)

    BTW, for someone who supports one of the most oppressive and citizen killing movements in history (USSR, China, RNK, Cambodia, Cuba, and the oppression of Eastern Europe) you have no reason to boast, nor right to critisize. Do you know what the worst thing is about your ideology? You claim to identify with unions yet you typically use them to promote anarchy, reduce workers to mindless drones who have no reason to be efficient and none to strive for excellence.
    Your movement is a relic of history, you support a revolution that has been totally discredited and doesn't realize it is dead. You don't seem to recognize the difference between socialism and what you profess to be. Pot, kettle, black(er).
    Cheers,
    Rex

  • Commie Chris
    Commie Chris

    My, my, you have me all figured out, don't you? What makes you think I have ever supported any the regimes you named? As I said in a few of my earliest posts on this board, "Commie Chris" is a nick-name that I have carried since my days as the front man in a punk band in the late '70s. I do not like labels, and I do not find that any of them fully describe my beliefs, but, if you must, my ideas could best be described as libertarian socialist, or anarchist. There is no more important value to me than freedom. I oppose all forms of oppression. So there. Apologize.

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    Thanks for filling me in on that. Anarchy is a ridiculous proposition unless you are the "baddest mo fo in town". Ah, but even that has the "Bad, Bad, Leroy Brown" principle in effect.
    ;-)
    Rex, who believes in "Equal Opportunity Offending"

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit
    one of the most oppressive and citizen killing movements in history (USSR, China, RNK, Cambodia, Cuba, and the oppression of Eastern Europe)

    Ah, but you see, they weren't true Communists, Rex. You can tell that by their bad fruitage and their not following correctly the peaceable teachings of Lenin.

    Expatbrit

  • Commie Chris
    Commie Chris

    Gee Rex, you're so clever. I'm sure you came to your conclusion after extensive study of the theory and practise of libertarian socialism. Thank you for correcting me. I intend to abandon my beliefs and become a knee-jerk right-wing christian.

    Expat: There was nothing peaceable about Lenin or his teachings. he was a despotic treacherous thug. Have I suggested otherwise?

  • Flip
    Flip
    the vast majority of Americans would also benefit from ending their government's policy of protecting and promoting corrupt repressive dictatorships.

    If only ones perspective were that simple, perhaps current 'western' policy towards the 'third world' is a necessary evil until benevolent dictatorships show up, i.e. Titoism.

    Flip

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    Chris:

    Now then now then don't get all hot and bothered. My comment wasn't aimed at you at all.

    I was merely amusing myself because Rex's position on all the havoc and misery caused by Christians throughout history is that they weren't real Christians because they didn't follow the real teachings of Christ.

    Meanwhile, out of the other side of his hat, he slags off non-Christian religions (e.g. Islam) and organisations he considers anti-American because of the violent actions of those who follow them.

    So just hold off on throwing the eggs and stuff, 'k?

    Expatbrit

  • jelly
    jelly

    Chris,

    Are you sure you’re a communist and not for more of a Social Democrat that wants a government modeled after some of the European systems that exist?

    Economically Communism has completely failed and it’s very difficult to make an argument for that form of government. At least with the Socialized Democracies you can make an argument for a better standard of living (maybe).

    Jelly

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