Copy of CO Letter/Outline Regarding Education - In Spanish

by grassyknoll07 55 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • sir82

    Does no one else think it is at least a little interesting that there seems to be at least one active US Circuit Overseer who is a mole?

    I gotta believe the Society monitors are checking into this thread.

    Hi guys!

  • Mr. Majestic
    Mr. Majestic

    Nooooo...!! Don't stop now. It was just getting interesting......

    Edit to add:

    Thank you valkyrie for your hard work so far. You are awarded a star……….

  • valkyrie

    Page 2. I did not proofread my translation; advance apologies for any typographical errors.


    Attending to personal and family necessities is a secondary objective (1 Tim. 6:-6-8: w96 1/2, p. 14, para. 22)

    To make good decisions, one must anticipate the costs of higher education (Luke 14:28-30)
    Question: What costs does a higher education incur? [Monetary costs, promotes the desire for prominence in Satan’s system, a climate of moral relativity, some have abandoned the truth, etc. (w05 1/10, pp. 28, 29, paragraphs 9-13)]
    Parents should help their children by practical means to choose an education which can provide them a happy and lasting future
    Focus on congregational activities produces happiness (Acts. 20:35)
    The first disciples of Jesus renounced promising professions (Matt. 4:18-22; 9:9; Col. 4:14)
    They did not see it as a loss (Matt. 19:29)
    Would a brother be continuing to satisfy the requirements for holding privileges in the congregation if he, his wife or his children pursued higher studies? [Ask for brief comments on 1 Timothy 3:13 and Titus 1:9]
    Situation: The son of an elder is studying for a career in architecture, lives with his parents, is a ministerial servant, has organized his studies so that they do not interfere with the meetings or the ministry, occasionally auxillary pioneers and the family does not promote the idea that others should obtain this type of education
    Questions: By his lifestyle and that of his family, can it be said that this elder is teaching his family to place the Kingdom first? (Matt. 6:33). [If a brother or a member of his family is pursuing higher education in order to obtain a specific job, does not promote it, and if it is clear that both he and his family are seeking first the Kingdom, his services of privilege need not be affected. Some professions require that an individual periodically take certification courses so as not to lose a professional licence]

    Situation: The daughter of an elder studies at university far from home with the goal of earning a lot of money. The elder and his wife tell other brothers that their daughter is doing this at their request, in view of the good economic situation that she will have and the prestige which the family will gain
    Questions: What opinion does this family have of that which the faithful slave has said concerning higher education, as revealed by their words and conduct? (Ps. 1:2, 3; 1 Cor. 2:13-16; 3 John 9) [When an appointed servant promotes higher education for the purpose of economic gain or prestige, this places in doubt his qualifications to serve in the congregation, and may affect his freeness of expression and that of his fellow elders]

    LOCAL NEEDS (10 min.)

    [Use points from the article “Making friends by means of unrighteous riches,” from The Watchtower of 1 December 1994, to encourage contributions for the worldwide work]

    CONCLUSION (3 min.)
    Paul exhorted Timothy to continue “holding on to the pattern of healthful words” (2 Tim. 1:13)
    The Greek word which is translated as “pattern” literally refers to an artist’s sketch
    Although not having much detail, the well defined contours of the sketch allow a discerning observer to form a general idea of the picture

  • TJ - iAmCleared2Land
    TJ - iAmCleared2Land

    Thank you for the excellent English translation, Valkyrie!!

  • shamus100

    Do you think you could translate it into pig-latin?

  • valkyrie

    Page 3 (continued forbearance for typographical errors is requested):


    Equally, the pattern of truth that Paul taught to Timothy and other Christians did not claim to give a concrete answer to every conceivable question
    This set of teachings provides sufficient guidelines to enable sincere persons to perceive what Jehovah expects of them
    To please God, we must all continue to hold to this pattern of truth, practicing what we have learned

    [At this point, ministerial servants should withdraw and the following section should be considered only with the elders. Later, other subjects which require attention will be examined with the elders.]

    Jehovah is the Founder of marriage (Gen. 2:18, 24; Matt. 19:4-6)
    He had decided that there should be a permanent bond between a man and a woman
    After the rebellion and the fall into sin, he established what would be the biblical basis for ending a marriage (Matt. 19: 8, 9; 1 Cor. 7:39; it-1 714, 715)
    Appointed men desire that their marriage and that of others be kept “honorable” and “without defilement” (Heb. 13:4)
    When problems arise, they use the Word of God to help both parties to see what may have aggravated the situation (Ps. 19:12, 13; 127:1)
    The elders must respect the authority principle when counselling married couples
    They do not allow ill-directed sympathies or favoritism towards one of the parties to cloud their view of the situation (Prov. 18:13, 17)
    The counsel must be based on the Bible and must follow the instructions of the faithful and discreet slave (be p. 267, paragraphs 1, 2); letter to the body of elders of 6 December 2006, paragraphs 8-12; letter to the body of elders of The United States of 15 February 2002, paragraph 14)
    When separation is spoken of, the elders should maintan a neutral and objective position (Deut. 16:18, 19; w88 1/11, p. 21 paragraph 4; fy pp. 159-161)
    Be very careful when it comes to evaluating evidence which may justify a biblical divorce
    It must be understood exactly what is porneia (ks91 p. 93; w06 15/7, pp. 29, 30). [Make sure that the elders have the updated definition (see the letter of 3 May 2003 to circuit overseers)]
    If elders give hasty and imprecise counsel and the person enteres into an adulterous marriage, what will Jehovah think of this counsel?
    If they are not sure whether the person is biblically free, let them write to the branch
    Apply theocratic directives in a coherent way. [Do not ask the elders to answer the following questions; rather, when posing the question, read the answer between brackets]
    Situation: A sister tells the elders that her husband refuses to support her economically. She also claims that he is living with another woman, and has a receipt signed by him for the rental payment of an apartment in which the woman is living
    Question: Based upon these facts, could the sister divorce her husband and become biblically free to remarry? [Is she truly in poverty? In such a case, separation or divorce are her decision (1 Cor. 7:11; fy p. 160, paragraphs 17, 18). Unless adultery can be proven, she is not biblically free to remarry (ks91, p. 111)]
    Situation: A married and baptised brother tells two publishers that he has been “immoral”
    Question: Could the elders accept this as a basis for determining the biblical freedom of the believing spouse? [It has to be a clear and unequivocal confession of adultery (Josh. 7:19, 20). “Immorality” includes an wide variety of acts which do not always coincide with that which the Bible calls porneia]

  • digderidoo

    Thanks valkyrie for your work on this


  • valkyrie

    You are all most welcome.

    Lastly, page 4:


    Situation: A publisher enters into a strictly contractual agreement to marry for the purpose of helping someone to obtain citizenship. After fulfilling the contract and obtaining a definitive divorce, the brother desires to remarry
    Question: Given that the marriage was never consummated, does this mean that they were never actually married? [That which formalizes the marriage is not sexual relations, but the marriage bond that legally unites the couple (w06 15/10 18-23)]
    When giving counsel, they should not rely upon their own understanding (Prov. 3:5, 6)
    Confirm the facts; investigate; ask for the help of the holy spirit
    Trust in the power of the Word of God and in the direction of His organisation (Matt. 24:45; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17)

    When the branch notifies the body of elders that a brother has been appointed as an elder or ministerial servant in the congregation, the presiding overseer should assign two elders to meet with that one before announcing the appointment
    Without exception, the elders should pose the following questions to the brother: “Is there anything in your past or in your personal or family life which disqualifies you or prevents you from accepting this appointment? Is there any reason why your appointment should not be announced to the congregation?”
    Moreover, if the brother has not served as an elder or ministerial servant before, it is necessary to ask him: “Have you ever been implicated in the sexual abuse of minors?”
    If he responds affirmatively to any of these questions, the appointment will not be announced and a form S-2 or the appointment letter S-52 will be returned to the branch with an explanation of why he does not satisfy the requirements
    If the answer to all of the questions is “no,” his appointment will be announced during the next Service Meeting
    There is no need to let more time pass before announcing the brother’s appointment

    Your brothers,

  • treadnh2o

    Sorry,this outline is a downer. It gives the GB wiggle room to deny/change as the need arises. I also don't feel it is a change in the education policy. Besides as brought up already, these are two extremes and also very subjective. If these leads to something else then I am completely wrong. Anyways, great job on the links!-H20

  • M.J.

    The CO talk at the local spanish congregation recently was nauseating. It was about how Timothy's father was an unbelieving Greek...and you know what Greeks liked the most?
    Sports, higher education, and other forms of debauchery!

    Good thing Timmy's mom taught him to "stand firm" against such evil!

    He went on to describe how Paul had a top-notch education but you know what? He counted it as worthless as garbage once he found the Truth according to Phil 3:7,8.

    (Here's the actual scripture) "as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless. But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ. More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ,


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