Proctor & Gamble...and more

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  • tan
    tan

    Does anyone remember when the witlesses said that we weren't to use anything with the proctor and gamble symbol (r) because they were demonized or satan worshipers?

    Can you think of any others...of course the Smurfs, E.T.....anymore?

  • blondie
    blondie

    If was not an official WTS teaching but individual jws did spread the story.

    *** g85 2/22 p. 30 Watching the World ***

    Resurrected Rumor"

    In 1982, the rumor got its first big boost from Protestant fundamentalists," says The Wall Street Journal. "This time, the largest single source group . . . has been Roman Catholic nuns and priests." What is the rumor? That the president of Procter & Gamble, the nation’s largest manufacturer of household products, declared himself a Satan worshiper and that the company’s "man in the moon" logo contains the sign of Satan. Two years ago, P&G went to great lengths publicizing denials, tracing sources, arranging for testimonials from church leaders, and filing six lawsuits before the story died. But last September the story gained new life. A nun in western Pennsylvania received in her mailbox a leaflet containing the story—sender unknown—and sent out copies to others. As a result, in October 1984 alone, P&G received over 5,000 inquiries in its offices. When told that the rumor was untrue, many who spread it were very apologetic. "But some who believe the rumor are loath to give it up—whatever the evidence," says the report.

    *** w84 9/1 pp. 20-21 Would You Spread a Rumor? ***

    DURING the Middle Ages an incredible rumor spread among the so-called Christians of Europe. It was whispered that each year at Passover, the Jews murdered a Christian and used his blood in their rituals. Sometimes they were said to capture Christian children and torture them horribly before killing them and using their blood. Right up until this century, during the Nazi period in Germany, this rumor was used as an excuse to persecute the Jews.

    The story was investigated and disproved several times, yet it persisted for almost a thousand years. If someone had told it to you, would you have shared in spreading it? Hopefully, all of us would have had enough common sense or compassion not to do so. Yet rumors are persistent and complex things. Once started, they are difficult to stop. Even today, absurd rumors spring up and spread like wildfire.

    For example, Procter & Gamble, a large firm supplying household products in the United States, was recently victimized by a rumor that it promoted Satanism and that its trademark was really a demon symbol. Another widespread rumor had it that a well-known chain of fast-food stores was putting worms in its hamburgers! Some years ago it was widely believed that a member of the singing group the Beatles had died in an auto accident and had been replaced by a double. Even the Watchtower Society’s publications have been the subject of rumors—for example, that one of the artists had secretly been introducing pictures of demons into the illustrations, was subsequently found out and disfellowshiped!

    Did you share in spreading any such stories? If so, you were—perhaps unwittingly—spreading an untruth, since they were all false. Certainly, the rumor concerning the Society’s publications was harmful, as well as slanderous to the zealous Christians who work long hours producing artwork to make the magazines, brochures and books so attractive. This was as ridiculous as it would be to say that God, in creating celestial bodies, deliberately formed the appearance of a ‘man in the moon.’

    Many years ago, Jehovah God told the Israelites: "You shall not spread a baseless rumour." (Exodus 23:1, The New English Bible) There was good reason for that command. Such rumors have bad results. They make the one spreading them a liar, something Jehovah hates. (Proverbs 6:16-19) They affect the reputation of the subject of the rumor. And they deceive the person who listens to the rumor, perhaps inciting him to act unwisely. (Numbers 13:32–14:4) It is most unloving thus to deceive our friends. It goes against God’s command: "You must not deceive, and you must not deal falsely anyone with his associate."—Leviticus 19:11; Proverbs 14:25.

    Hence, if we pass on to others a story that we have heard, we should be careful to have the facts right. But how can we do that? One thing that will help us is an understanding of the nature of rumors.

  • Rapunzel
    Rapunzel

    Red M&M's because they were thought to contain blood? In the early days, aluminum pans were verbotten. I forget the reason

  • Quirky1
    Quirky1

    What about the issue they had with aluminum. I can't remember for sure but I think they said it caused cancer if you cooked, ate or drank from it.

  • journey-on
    journey-on

    Don't eat anything containing lecithin because it contains blood.

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M

    While JWs helped spread the P&G story the story originated not from a JW, but from an Amway salesman.

  • ex-nj-jw
    ex-nj-jw
    While JWs helped spread the P&G story the story originated not from a JW, but from an Amway salesman

    Who was probably an Amway salesman

    nj

  • blondie
    blondie

    1963

    *** w63 2/15 pp. 123-124 Carry Your Own Load of Responsibility ***Today the world misuses blood in so many ways that it is not always easy to discern what products contain it. The Christian may feel that it would be fine if the Watch Tower Society would make up a list of all the food products and medical preparations that contain blood. But the Society has not done so for good reasons. There are many substances found in blood that are also found elsewhere. This is to be expected, since human and animal bodies are not the only creations produced from the earth. For example, while lecithin is found in blood, it is also derived from soybeans, which happen to be the common commercial source of most lecithin.If there is doubt about a product, it is up to the individual to investigate by inquiring of the manufacturer. He cannot expect a brother in the congregation to rule on the matter for him; the brother did not make the product and neither did the Society. The substance may have been derived from blood or it may not. He must bear his own load of responsibility.

    1979

    *** w79 3/15 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***

    Lecithin is found in blood. And many processed foods have lecithin as an ingredient. Is such lecithin obtained from blood?

    No, there is no reason for thinking so.

    Lecithin is a natural substance that has many industrial uses because of its affinity for both oil and water in an emulsion. It is often used commercially in ice cream, candies and baking products, as well as in some cosmetics and chemical products. But what is the source of this lecithin?

    Lecithin is a phospholipid present in all living cells. The 1977 EncyclopediaAmericana points out: "The highest concentrations of lecithins are found in brain and nervous tissue and in red blood cells. They are also present in large quantities in egg yolk and in some types of plant seeds."—Vol. 17, p. 147.

    The fact that blood contains lecithin has been of concern to some Christians who have seen lecithin listed as an ingredient on food labels. The Bible commands Christians to ‘abstain from blood.’ (Acts 15:28, 29) They should thus avoid eating unbled meat and foods made with blood, such as blood sausage or blood pudding. Since red blood cells, though, contain concentrations of lecithin, some Christians have refused to eat any product having lecithin listed as an ingredient.Others have felt compelled to write to manufacturers to check on the source of the lecithin used in certain foods.

    However, TheEncyclopediaAmericana continues: "Commercially, lecithin is used as an emulsifier in the food industry, particularly in the manufacture of margarine and chocolate. Lecithinforindustrialusesisobtainedfromeggsorasaby-productinthemanufactureofsoybeanoil." (Italics added.)

    Because commercial quantities of relatively inexpensive lecithin can be obtained from eggs or soybean oil, there is no reason for any manufacturer to seek to have lecithin extracted from blood. By way of illustration: Red blood cells also contain molecules of iron. Yet how senseless it would be for a manufacturer to consider extracting iron from blood so he could make cooking pots or other iron products when the same substance (iron) can be obtained from iron ore at a fraction of the cost.

    The fact is, then, that commercial lecithin does not come from blood. So Christians need not be concerned about blood when they see "lecithin" listed on the label of some food product.

  • Quirky1
    Quirky1

    Blondie,

    Do you have anything on the aluminum?

  • blondie
    blondie

    http://www.seanet.com/~raines/aluminum.html

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TEykxAiT40

    (try YouTube and Aluminum)

    http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/index.php/watchtower_quotes/medical-science/aluminum/

    This is what is on the WT-CD. See above for older quotes.

    *** g82 6/8 p. 30 Watching the World ***

    Aluminum OverloadToronto pharmacologist Dr. Armand Lione says that aluminum in the food we eat and in the utensils we cook with may contribute to health disorders. He claims that as little as two or three milligrams of aluminum filtering into the brain can disrupt normal functioning and contribute to a form of senility. Lione said that the average North American takes in about twenty-two milligrams daily, and most is excreted through the kidneys. However, he warns that the efficiency of the kidneys begins to decline after age thirty, so some aluminum begins to stay in the body. What are some common sources of aluminum in foods? Commercial cake mixes, pancake batters, self-rising flours and frozen doughs. These often have sodium aluminum phosphate as a leavening agent. In sulfate salts of aluminum, known as "alums," aluminum may be present in some pickled foods, such as pickled cucumbers. Aluminum cookware, especially when used to prepare and store acid foods such as tomatoes, can increase aluminum content, the doctor declares.

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