I predict Supreme Court for this situation

by Octarine Prince 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Octarine Prince
  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    I'll bet if he was keeping a Koran on his desk the issue wouldn't even be raised.

  • Octarine Prince
    Octarine Prince

    I don't know about that.

    I see where you are going with that, but, I am from Ohio, and to be quite honest, there is a lot of support for Christian bible-thumping (stereotype), especially in the small cities and towns. Just not in school.

    That's why I think it's going to go the distance. He is not budging, and the rules are already in place.

    Buckle up.

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    OP

    Where will it stop? The bible or just any book that says anything about any God? How about SiFI?

  • yknot
    yknot

    I guess we will eventually just become France.

    I can understand both sides of the argument.

    I mean how many times have those of us raised/born JW have felt the preference of one belief over the other.

    If we are going to make this a seperation of state and church issue then what is next? Should there be a ban on wearing religious jewelry too. Would every person upon entering school have to give up all religious ideas?

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    I may be in the minority here, but the whole thing stinks.

    This guy is trying to push the envelope of what's allowed and somebody else
    is trying to prevent him from pushing.

    If he cannot have his "Ten Commandments" thing, then he wants something
    to feel like he has won. He makes an issue out of the order to remove the
    Bible, they make an issue out of it being there and his ignoring the order.

    Who benefits from such a situation? Nobody really. Who loses from such
    a situation? This year's students lose. The teacher thinks he is teaching them
    a lesson on freedom or something, but in reality is taking away time from
    whatever the actual lessons are supposed to be.

    If the guy has a book on his desk, ignore it. If they don't ignore it and get a
    court order to remove it, remove it. If he wants to fight the order, let him do it
    on his own without violating the order. Meanwhile, just teach. If people just
    didn't focus on these situations, it wouldn't be a big deal. Ignore him and
    the book on his desk.

    Now if we want to add fuel to the fire, his employer has the right to make
    rules about what's on his desk. His employer is the local government.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    I may be in the minority here, but the whole thing stinks.

    This guy is trying to push the envelope of what's allowed and somebody else
    is trying to prevent him from pushing.

    If he cannot have his "Ten Commandments" thing, then he wants something
    to feel like he has won. He makes an issue out of the order to remove the
    Bible, they make an issue out of it being there and his ignoring the order.

    Who benefits from such a situation? Nobody really. Who loses from such
    a situation? This year's students lose. The teacher thinks he is teaching them
    a lesson on freedom or something, but in reality is taking away time from
    whatever the actual lessons are supposed to be.

    If the guy has a book on his desk, ignore it. If they don't ignore it and get a
    court order to remove it, remove it. If he wants to fight the order, let him do it
    on his own without violating the order. Meanwhile, just teach. If people just
    didn't focus on these situations, it wouldn't be a big deal. Ignore him and
    the book on his desk.

    Now if we want to add fuel to the fire, his employer has the right to make
    rules about what's on his desk. His employer is the local government.

    Get the goobermint out of education.

    Actually, goobermint schools aren't educating anybody. It is a glorified daycare. Burn
  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    I might point out that nothing here is being said about his reading the Bible to the class, asking them to receive Jesus into their hearts, preaching sermons or, for that matter, requiring the students in any way to even acknowledge the existence of the Bible in the room. The teacher merely has it on his desk. Nothing else. Presumably he might read it during free periods or on his lunch hour.

    I'll stand by my original statement: if this was a Koran, or a manual on witchcraft or the Satanic Bible, I'm betting nobody would raise an eyebrow. But certain elements have an interest in eliminating any public expression of Christianity, which they mask as an elimination of religion in general - except that the only religion they ever seem to object to or be "offended" by is Christianity.

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    yknot

    I can understand both sides of the argument.

    Why can't everyone have total freedom of religion? Let the government stay out of this.

  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    My! Let's go back to banning books again. We are becoming so progressive.

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