Is Jesus God....a trinity/triune question.

by serenaj92 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • caleb
    caleb

    Jesus Christ is God. NKJV John 8:58 Jesus said to them,"Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I AM."
    Jehovah God in Exodus 3:14 And God said to Moses,"I AM WHO I AM." And he said,"Thus you shall say to the children of Israel,'I AM has sent me to you.'"
    Jesus refered to Himself as the same thing that Jehovah God did. The New World Translation diliberately changed John 8:58 which proves Christ's Deity. Where John 8:58 says 'I AM' it was changed to 'I have been.' That is a direct attack on the Deity of Christ.

  • ianao
    ianao

    Yes fools, a Trinity exists.

    Eternal Bread, Holy Ham, and Sacred Cheese.

    Theese three make one divine sandwich.

    yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy.

  • Dino
    Dino

    I just wanted to welcome the two newbies, Caleb and Will Power.

    Glad to see you jump into the fray. Will Power, that was an interesting post. I will have a look-see myself.

    Dino

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    Hey Dino, here's another!
    Yet another reason to discard shoddy theology….
    When something calls itself the truth, yet deceives its own on a regular basis and has to resort to lies and trickery to keep a following, one must use discernment and make sure of all things.

    Another “CD” explanation example:

    ***it-1-80-1 Alpha and Omega***
    pre-amble paraphrase: discusses A & O with 1st & last.
    …commentators apply this title both to God and to Christ, a more careful examination of its use restricts it application to Jehovah God. The first verse …….

    4 verses are first discussed: Revelation 1:11 calls it spurious
    Re 22:8 many speakers - explained away
    Re 1:8 the Almighty, can only be one
    Re 21:6 one of the many speakers, not Christ

    Fourth paragraph
    Quote:
    “The FINAL occurrence of the title is at Revelation 22:13 which states:…………..”

    Hey what happened to Rev 1:17-18?
    “When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying,
    “Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was DEAD, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.”

    Guess since Jehovah has never died, they couldn’t include this passage in their tear down of the Alpha/Omega, First/Last.

    They deliberately left it out.
    When I see trickery & deception, I wonder why are they doing this? Who is behind it?
    What could be the motive?

  • anewperson
    anewperson

    Someone asked where Cain got his wife. At a time when humans were close to the physical and genetic perfection that Eve and Adam had without the horrible bad effects that close genetic relations today incur, which we call incest, he would have been able to have children by a fleshly sister. Again, today that would be a great sin but at the time there was no Biblical or even societal sanctions against it and nor would there have been a likelihood of genetic problems for the offspring.

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    Here ya go!

    http://www.watchman.org/jw/answers.htm Answering Watchtower Objections
    http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/t03.html The Biblical Basis of the Doctrine of the Trinity by Robert Bowman
    http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/t10.html The Doctrine of the Trinity
    http://answering-islam.org.uk/Trinity/beckwith.html The Trinity by Francis J Beckwith
    http://www.probe.org/docs/bel-trin.html Why We Should Believe in the Trinity Pat Zuckeran
    http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/9t8/9t8072.html Writing the Trinity Philip Yancey
    http://www.atlantaapologist.org/Sharp.html A Bicentennial Defense of Granville Sharp's Argument for the Deity of Christ.

    Lots of good Russellite/arian debunking here. JWs are just plain wrong. They have never had any real scholars and I include the most recent well known apologists, Stafford and Furuli.
    Rex

  • serenaj92
    serenaj92

    Thank you all for your imput, except those who follow my threads just to try to pi$$ me off.....like nytelecom1. Is he lonely or what? Anyhow, there were alot of very nice comments, very interesting viewpoints, and intelligent answers here. Really I thank you for taking the time to voice your oppinions and give me more information.

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