You are welcome, heyfea.
Glad you enjoyed the article.
Observer
Mary imperfect, Jesus perfect
by heyfea 39 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Mary
Why was Jesus born perfect when Mary was not perfect?
Oh come on now------everyone knows I'm more perfect than what Jesus ever was.
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Country Girl
I always wondered, even as a child: if Adam were created perfect, then it would not be in his nature to even CONTEMPLATE sin, right? The very word, "perfect" indicates no free-will, but a course of behaviors and thought that is directed, and can't be sidetracked. If you are perfect, then sin is not even a comprehensible option.
CG
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real one
I never knew Mary was perfect. I have never read that in the Bible.
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blondie
WTS explanation:
*** it-2 p. 56 Jesus Christ ***
Mary was a descendant of the sinner Adam, hence herself imperfect and sinful. The question therefore is raised as to how Jesus, Mary’s "firstborn" (Lu 2:7), could be perfect and free from sin in his physical organism. While modern geneticists have learned much about laws of heredity and about dominant and recessive characteristics, they have had no experience in learning the results of uniting perfection with imperfection, as was the case with Jesus’ conception. From the results revealed in the Bible, it would appear that the perfect male life-force (causing the conception) canceled out any imperfection existent in Mary’s ovum, thereby producing a genetic pattern (and embryonic development) that was perfect from its start.
*** w72 4/15 p. 237 par. 16 Laying the Foundations for God’s New Order ***
In due time, by means of his holy spirit, Jehovah God transferred the life of his heavenly Son to the womb of the virgin Mary at Nazareth in Galilee. In this way God’s only-begotten Son became related to Adam and to Adam’s descendants through this human mother Mary, but his life came, not from Adam, but from God. Despite his human birth, he remained the Son of God, and according to his heavenly Father’s instructions to Mary he was called Jesus, a name that means "Jehovah Is Salvation." Because his perfect life was originally from God and was transferred from heaven to the egg cell in Mary’s womb, Jesus was born as a perfect and sinless Son, free from God’s condemnation to death. (Luke 1:31-35; 3:23-38)
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Scientists cannot measure human perfection or imperfection resulting from sin. Nor can they predict the powerful effect a perfect male sperm would have on an imperfect ovum. But it is evident from what occurred in Jesus’ case that the perfect male part of the reproduction dominated the imperfection inherent in Mary. Jesus’ perfect Father transferred the perfect life of his Son to the womb of Mary and the result was a wholly perfect offspring, Jesus.—Gal. 4:4.
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Observer17
Hi heyfea,
Your husband raised an excellent question.
So far, has he made any decision on the matter?
For example, which of the three aforementioned (Watchtower) explanations shown above by "Blondie," does your husband prefer? Has he decided yet?
...And how about yourself?
Or do you both prefer another explanation on this matter so far.
...Just curious.
Observer
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LayingLow
It is interesting to me that the Bible never says Adam was created "perfect". It says the the creation of man was "very good. (GEN 1:31)" Not that he was created with sin, but does the absolute idea of 'perfection' have to be applied? How about just saying he was created without sin. I think he had the ability to reach perfection of humanity by cooperation with God but that he chose not to cooperate. Maybe perfection is what Jesus was resurrected to, the perfection of the human nature transformed by God's Spirit.
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tijkmo
*** it-2 p. 56 Jesus Christ ***
The inspired Record says: “But the birth of Jesus Christ was in this way. During the time his mother Mary was promised in marriage to Joseph, she was found to be pregnant by holy spirit before they were united.” (Mt 1:18) Prior to this, Jehovah’s angelic messenger had informed the virgin girl Mary that she would ‘conceive in her womb’ as the result of God’s holy spirit coming upon her and His power overshadowing her. (Lu 1:30, 31, 34, 35) Since actual conception took place, it appears that Jehovah God caused an ovum, or egg cell, in Mary’s womb to become fertile, accomplishing this by the transferal of the life of his firstborn Son from the spirit realm to earth. (Ga 4:4) Only in this way could the child eventually born have retained identity as the same person who had resided in heaven as the Word, and only in this way could he have been an actual son of Mary and hence a genuine descendant of her forefathers Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, and King David and legitimate heir of the divine promises made to them. (Ge 22:15-18; 26:24; 28:10-14; 49:10; 2Sa 7:8, 11-16; Lu 3:23-34; see GENEALOGY OF JESUS CHRIST.) It is likely, therefore, that the child born resembled its Jewish mother in certain physical characteristics.
Mary was a descendant of the sinner Adam, hence herself imperfect and sinful. The question therefore is raised as to how Jesus, Mary’s “firstborn” (Lu 2:7), could be perfect and free from sin in his physical organism. While modern geneticists have learned much about laws of heredity and about dominant and recessive characteristics, they have had no experience in learning the results of uniting perfection with imperfection, as was the case with Jesus’ conception. From the results revealed in the Bible, it would appear that the perfect male life-force (causing the conception) canceled out any imperfection existent in Mary’s ovum, thereby producing a genetic pattern (and embryonic development) that was perfect from its start. Whatever the case, the operation of God’s holy spirit at the time guaranteed the success of God’s purpose. As the angel Gabriel explained to Mary, “power of the Most High” overshadowed her so that what was born was holy, God’s Son. God’s holy spirit formed, as it were, a protective wall so that no imperfection or hurtful force could damage, or blemish, the developing embryo, from conception on.—Lu 1:35.
Since it was God’s holy spirit that made the birth possible, Jesus owed his human life to his heavenly Father, not to any man, such as his adoptive father Joseph. (Mt 2:13-15; Lu 3:23) As Hebrews 10:5 states, Jehovah God ‘prepared a body for him,’ and Jesus, from conception onward, was truly “undefiled, separated from the sinners.”—Heb 7:26; compare Joh 8:46; 1Pe 2:21, 22.
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Warlock
Why was Jesus born perfect when Mary was not perfect?
Oh come on now------everyone knows I'm more perfect than what Jesus ever was.
Jesus also remained a vigin, sooooooo.......................................... Warlock
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gumby
Warlock, you impotent horny bastard, quit imply'in that my sweetie ain't got any romantic knowlege.
Why, me and her are like rabbits, ya damn hairbrain!
Gumpotent