Isolation!

R.Crusoe

Is there anyone out there who has spent much of their life around JWs and then been sparated from family long term enough to almost have no real bond and social structure left in their lives?

And is there anyone having had that happen now living a happy and fulfilling Job like existence?

I always wonderd how Job could be happy after losing so many loved ones? I wonder if many put up with their religion thinking it will come to them and never does?

The story of Job tricks many into putting up with waaaay tooo much garbage!

AK - Jeff

I spent all but my first 5 years, until I was 48, as a brain dead dub.

I have little social structure due to that. I am building it up slowly, some Xjw's, some not. I don't have too many [immediate] family left, just my dad and my sister [besides wife and grandkids]. But I do have a good relationship with those I have. In fact, in some ways, though dad never got baptised, and sister was in for far less years than I was, they have a limited social structure due to believing the Jw's also.

It takes years to develop real friends - but it is possible. In the meantime, there is some value in 'alone' time, to sort it all out.

Jeff

Mr. Majestic

Yeah, lost pretty much everything. Haven’t got what Job got back just yet mind. Should turn up any day now…….any day now…….any day now……!!

I hate the post service…..always late

R.Crusoe

I vouch there are thousands of such like souls demeaned and dumped out of their own lives by WT mind control and reject policies!

I also am pretty certain some are fully aware they will never get the life they missed and now are certain the one they lived so long for is a mirage!

And the mirage gives WT puppets bird pecking powers they actually believe are divinely administered when in fact they are simple human bullying tactics to overpower and harm others!

It would be reassuring to hear from those who may have gone through the whole WT mincing machine and found a truly fulfilling life absent the families that half baked and left them behind part due to WT psychotactics.

Tyrone van leyen

You are right Crusoe, I beleive there are tons of folks who have had their lives turned upside down, and it never is the same again. Even after many years I still have a hard time trusting. It is unfortunately a betrayal that is very base. You grow up living your life by rules and try hard to please only to have it mean nothing. It is always heavier guilt and fear when more of your family is involved. Isolation is a tough weapon used to break people. That's why they have " The hole" in jail.

The big lesson here, for someone who was born into it," Things are not always what they appear to be. I think the failings of humanity can be seen everywhere through life though. It's hard sometimes to make those distinctions when you grow up in it. I wonder sometimes if the angriest groups of the dejected, are those who were born in it. They never really had a chance. You would think that life, lived in this simplistic way, could be more predictable. But alas, you can still get the rug pulled from under you.

My problem in leaving the witnesses was, I was lonely, and didn't know anyone in the world. I met all the wrong people. I live alone now, by choice, and I find it's been good for my soul. Lost time, regrets, Yes. I don't doubt there are countless lost souls feeling the sting of the shunning paradigm.

jaguarbass

The short answer is I dont think I am living a happy and fullfiling Job like existence.

I was raised a witness in Cleveland then, at 29, I left Cleveland and my family and moved to Florida, then I left the troof.

I guess since I left I have had no bond or social structure, and I have taken anti depressents.

I know the Wac tower messed things up. But I also figured life is depressing and many people are depressed.

I figure we get little bits of happiness here and there and have to savor them.

I've enjoyed playing music in a band, I've enjoyed skiing in Colorado and British Columbia, I've enjoyed a good movie and dinner. But just as often I feel miserable.

I figure most people come from dysfunctional familes.

Like Elaine said on Seinfield most people are misserable, why be fat and miserable?

They say the grass is always greener on the othe side. But you can never get to the other side.

When I was a bible reader/ believer, I always hated reading the book of Job. It did not endear me to God, a God who would let man be toyed with. And I found it depressing.

The whole bible and a religion like the Wactower tricks people into doing things that are abnormal and against their best wishes.

You got to remember who your working for when you go to the Kingdumb hall. Your a Wac. Tower Salesperson, and its a real shxty job with piss poor benefits.

I mean if you escape the Wac tower. You are like someone who went to AA meetings. Once you go to AA your drinking is messed up for good.

Once you spent time in the kingdumb hall. Your chances of ever finding another relgion are pretty messed up.

So if you cant ever find another religion, and you come to the realization that we evolved and their is no God, I find it almost impossible to be happy with that reality.

All you get is like Richard Dawkins said in the God Delusion. "I was looking forward to having a good diner tonight, and we did".

choosing life

"Most men live lives of quiet desperation." Who said that? I think I read that in a watchtower mag. once. I think they had it just about right.

Never liked to read Job either. It was way too much like the Greek gods who used mankind for their amusement. God allowing people to be tortured to prove a point to Satan is too sadistic for me.

Making friends is hard work, but it can be done. The jws definately retard the process by their us and them mentality.

WTWizard

I believe the whole book of Job was one big, fat stock experience that Jehovah had written up so He could make people as miserable as possible. And, then instead of rectifying the problems, He could just refer them to the stock experience of Job and get them to act as if that were their experiences as well.

And, of course, the Witchtower Society takes full advantage of that. They want people to stay in the tower, thinking that Jehovah will take care of them like He did Job. This funnels people right into Jehovah's trap, getting them to thank Him in advance for Him helping Job (what the fxxx does that have to do with the problems at hand? We will be seeing a ton of those in the Puketower study about prayers that is coming in a few weeks.

No, Jehovah never helped me once I left the Tower. He is still trying to use that stock experience of Job to get out of giving me any good experiences of my own (it's OK that the opposite sex totally rejects me, because Job was helped out, in addition to the other stock experiences written in that mysticism book called the Bible). But at least I am not giving that Almighty Monster any rewards for it--He is going to get His name totally trashed, and the more He shows me that He is maximally malevolent, the harder He is going down.

SPAZnik

I never understood, as a dub, the point of the entire Job heavenly "court case", as depicted by the dubs, if it didn't resolve the question of universal sovereignty, proving satan wrong. I never understood why god after supposedly proving his point using Job, thereby "winning" the case for sovereignty and humanity, didn't just snuff satan out right then.

A friend of mine explains such things by saying god is a bastard.

Isolation can be a beee-otch.

Except when it's solitude, desparately sought.

Strangely, I experienced a momentary appreciation at one time for the jw shunning practises. I felt, fleetingly, like, if there was a gawd, then maybe said gawd was protecting me from them when I needed it most. hahahahaahah :)

Satanus

Like unk in the sirens of titan. Fuck job and the book he is in.

S

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