So I did the unthinkable

by veen 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • veen
    veen

    I decided enough was enough and had a no holds barred conversation with a room of around a dozen 'believers'. A number of things had been troubling me all night, but the final straw was when my brother-in-law said 'Isn't it funny how the acronym STD can stand for both, sexually transmitted disease and satan the devil.'

    I couldn't stand the frustration anymore so i pointed out how irrelevant that fact was, and how if we spoke a different language the same conclusion could probably not be made. And how Jehovah is the only person capable of creating sexually transmitted disease in the first place, so not to place the blame on Satan anyway. I went on to say how many times I had heard this type of comment made by different jw's throughout my life and how bothered I was with the effect it can have on people who are weak minded, including children, and how it can have a very subtle effect even on intelligent people.

    Well that was it. The people most shocked at how Satan was controlling my mind came back at me big time with all their favorate faith strengtheners, like how could I explain their friend going to a seance and believing there was a spirit there. If the 'truth' is not true, then seeing as I think I'm cleverer than them all what else is a better explaination for their existence...etc.

    The ones I always thought don't really believe kept their mouths shut. And within 20 minutes they had all gone home, demonstrating their lack of faith when faced with the prospect of talking about the reality of their religious beliefs with someone capable of giving a sensible answer back.

    One hell of a can of worms I opened up that's for sure.

  • Bryan
    Bryan

    I smell a sheparding call coming your way very soon...

    Bryan

  • SirNose586
    SirNose586

    Doesn't it feel good to quash some lame JW conversation fillers? It was things like that which made me dread going to any "get-togthers" and the like. The ignorance was spread around like a virus.

    I wish I could do it more often, but for the darndest reason I feel nauseated whenever I'm invited to a "gathering." I did get to stomp on that tired "Awake and Watchtowers equal college education" myth.

    I think we all have a duty to quash ignorance before it can spread. It's not the loving thing to let crap get spread too far.

  • KenseiShimonzu
    KenseiShimonzu

    Lmao,way to go Veen...i like those kinds of skirmishes myself....poking holes in idiots,who follows EVERYTHING they're told's logic is one of my favorite past times..

    I always love the retort"Well..the Watchtower says..",to which i reply"I'm asking what YOU think,what YOU believe..i'm not asking what some book SAY'S you should believe,and while we're on that topic...do you even know the guy that wrote that? You sure think highly of what he thinks to say you've never even met him

    :P

  • changeling
    changeling

    Welcome veen!

    changeling

  • ThomasCovenant
    ThomasCovenant

    Hi Veen

    That old brother in law of yours is a beaut when it comes to logical reasoning isn't he.

    He wouldn't be the same brother in law that someone told me had visited strip clubs, casinos, smoked, swore, visited porn sites but still never stopped believing in Big J is he?

    I can't wait to hear how it went. And who the 'quiet' ones were. Anyone I know?

    Thomas Covenant

  • destructo-girl
    destructo-girl

    Nice one. I'm always way to scared to actually speak up when people say stupid stuff like that. I just nod and smile, I'm such a wimp. You have my total admiration.

  • The-Borg
    The-Borg

    Brilliant!, takes guts to stand up to cult thinking in front of so many people. Keep up the good work. I would love an opportunity like that.

  • Locutus of Borg
    Locutus of Borg

    Welcome Veen

    That took balls. Hopefully it jogged the mental prcess of some of them into gear.

    Keep us posted

  • R.Crusoe
    R.Crusoe

    You decided to use your own mind, which considering how everyone else is programmed to cluster bomb you with the thought transplants of the WTS, must mean you feel you have reasons which matter to you. If people won't respect you for your own views, will they ever really? Or only if you clone yourself to their thoughts, their thoughts and their thoughts etc etc etc.?

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