OTWO- Funny stuff! Yeah, I know your joking ! But serious too ! I'm easygoing with a flair for eccentric humor dark and twisted and any other , good post ! I agree with you that the real value all you ex-elders and anybody else can have is what we can do on this board now to help one another learn how to live life without mind control and think for ourselves ! All of us can do that for each other ! I don't put elders on a pedestal , I treat my dad ( elder 53 years ) and older brother ( elder 35 years ) like anybody else . To me, it just shows they have had their minds controlled longer than me ! I was smarter because I got out of it ! LOL! So, yeah, it's cool ! I look at you as a friend, not a former ( I won't say the word , you ,know ! ) Peace out, Mr. Flipper