by misanthropic 27 Replies latest members private
(((((((MISAN)))))))
I am so sorry that you are going through that. I have had similar experiences with that except it was related to mental illness and not drugs.
You may have done the right thing with that last correspondence. Make him feel the pain HE has caused YOU but with love. Hopefully that might help him understand you.
Ouch! So this is the weekend that you spoke of.
Meth induced paranoia is REALLY hard to deal with. Your letter was fine, and might ding that little sane bell in the back of their brain.
yeah, I know and thanks I hope so. Only time will tell.
Yes Spectre, that was what I was talking about, sorry I never got back to you- as you can see things have been crazy...
Thanks WAC, that's right I forgot you probably undertstand what this is like, it's all insanity in some way or other.
I'd rather give to those who will appreciate it.
Yes. Thanks Goph, that's exactly how I feel it just different because this is my brother. I sometimes don't understand how things got to this point. I feel helpless and frustrated. It sucks.
Sounds like the drugs have made them schizophrenic. They need to get some PROFESSIONAL help.
I used to get phone calls at work from a guy I used to work with, who thought he had been implanted with a micro-chip, that the government had his phone and computer tapped, that agents of the government were following him around, agents of the government were having his neighbor's try to "set him off" so they could arrest him, that President Bush was speaking to him directly thru the t.v. whenever he gave any type of televised address.
He would go off on these rambling tirades that were so disconnected, you would have to hear them to believe them.
Mis, it looks like you will not be able to do much for them, so don't feel guilty, and don't let them destroy YOUR life.
I really don't want to sound like a hard-ass on this, but I used to warn my daughter that one of the possible consequences of trying drugs are: You might love the drugs you try, and become addicted..............for life.
Warlock
Sheesh, that would drive you nuts. Unfortunately, no matter how much we want to help, until an addict recognizes their problem, they are beyond help, and too often "helping" them will enable them. Impossible to know what you should do, but I suspect taking a hard line is the only thing that has a chance of conveying anything to them.
Unfortunately the addict in their mind it is always about them, we tend to feel sorry for them and they expect to be pandered to and understood, they don't see any pain they cause for anyone else they only see their own, like any addiction it is selfish and self centred unfortunaltey when we give tough love it usually backfires because it is their pain, thier mind their thier their's always about them.
As one poster put it , until they want to do something for themselves without the crutch of drugs or others like youreself there is nothing you can do. Being overly concerned doesn't work, being a matter of fact is better, otherwise they think, oh so and so understands and if they can take you along they will because everything is usually about them.
Hope they see that they are worth more than the moment.
Addictive drugs of any kind are a dead end. The paranoia of meth. can be pretty extreme. You are not communicating with your "real" brother and can't until he gets some help.
Once again, all addictive drugs are the wrong road in life, both legal and illrgal. Sorry for your heartache and I hope he gets some help soon.
So very sorry, misa.
Free2beme posted this thread. It may be of help.
METH. It is every where and like a plague
Really sorry you're having to deal with this.
I used to get phone calls at work from a guy I used to work with, who thought he had been implanted with a micro-chip, that the government had his phone and computer tapped, that agents of the government were following him around, agents of the government were having his neighbor's try to "set him off" so they could arrest him, that President Bush was speaking to him directly thru the t.v. whenever he gave any type of televised address.
He would go off on these rambling tirades that were so disconnected, you would have to hear them to believe them.
Warlock- I've known people similar to this guy. And yeah my brother has acted in a similar fashion with other things. Not the Government but the neighbors being out to get him etc. And yeah it's very hard to deal with when you know someone isn't in their right mind. I think you hit the nail on the head with the comment about schizophrenia because that's exactly what it seems to be like. I know there's really nothing I can do because I always remind myself that I can't help him if he doesn't help himself but it's a terrible feeling for sure.
until an addict recognizes their problem, they are beyond help, and too often "helping" them will enable them.
yes I know you're right. I had stopped giving them money for their birthday and things when I knew it would spent on this for that very reason.
I do think my last email might have done something, I got feedback that they are worried about me having nothing to do with them, they were asking people if i was really going to cut them off. So maybe they will take this seriously- time will tell.
Thanks everyone for your comments, I'm taking everything to heart and it's been really helpful to have your support, thanks so much.
Nvr, I did read that thread before I even commented in it. My brother had awful things happen to him when he was young and I've always made excuses for his behavior because I know he has a lot of sadness and pain inside of him. But he isn't a child anymore and he is only making things worse for himself. His drug use only makes him relive lots of things from his past and doesn't help him to grow and move past things. I don't quite know what to do because I haven't experienced the things he has but I do know this is not a healthy outlet for him, I just hope he wakes up before it's too late or he ends up in prison or something. Sometimes I feel like I'm his mom and this has just been really hard, I love him but I can't help him and I wish I could.
