APOLOGIES by real JW's: JW's are NOT False Prophets

by Terry 36 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  emptywords

  Book study a few months ago the elder conductor said... one thing that has never changed and will never change is 1914..

  Everyone was nodding...and agreeing. That this date marks the time when cast Satan and hordes out of heaven and took kingdom power, since then Mth24 Lu21 Mk13 and 2Tim 3:1-5 has been escalating and been obviously fullfilled as we aproach the last trumpet or cry of 1Thess 5:3 "cry of peace andsecurity" verse 2 says though "that you yourselves know that Jehovah's day is coming as a thief in the night. They never picked a day but picking or suggesting (75) the year wouldn't exactly be like a thief, people step up their preaching work in expectation of assuring survivial at arma.
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  NotaNess

  "Never said it "In the name of Jehovah"

  "In the name of Jehovah" is not meant literal, which means they didn't have to say "Jehovah told us to say it or teach it"

  It just means anyone representing the Word of God & preaching to the masses. Even worse, claiming to be the FDS and teaching these dates. Heck, they're saying 1914 for decades now as Christ's reign, and there's no proof of that even. What happens when they get new light, and say the 1984 airing date of the Miami Vice Pilot, was the beginning of Christ's reign? Boom! The Rank & File will just follow right along just like scripture says, and death will be the end for those who follow the false prophets.
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  writetoknow

  God is not a lawyer twisting words. Religious people play the lawyer game when it comes to God's word they must think God is a fool?

  How sad one thinks they can enter into eternal life by stating a word correctly. Everyone would then have to hire a professional bible lawyer and draw up contracts. How strange people would confuse running a corporation with God.

  It is amazing that the whole of JW's believe life is about words not the heart that God reads. Sincerity of heart is the bases for a Christian one must worship with truth and spirit. How many times Christ exposed the hearts of those using words to discredit his ministry.

  "He exercused strength with His arm; He scattered the proud in their heart's imaginations."

  "The good person expresses good from the good that is stored in his heart, and the evil person expresses evil out of his evil accumulations. For from the over flowing heart the mouth speaks."

  "You must love your neighbor as yourself, you behave beautifully. But if you show partiality, then you are practicing sin; you stand convicted by the Law as culprits."

  For the judgment is merciless to those who have practiced no mercy, whereas mercy triumphs over judgments."
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  unbaptized

  It is by inspiration that the scriptures were written. It is not by inspiration that the scriptures are interpreted. My thing is if you don't believe then don't believe. Time will tell all things.

  I'm pretty sure when Noah told his message to the people in his homeland that a deluge is about to come upon the earth they laughed in his face for many years. They laughed all the way up to the time Jehovah made Noah enter the ark. I know the Org is hard to believe and follow, it could be comparable to a man of God building a ship on dry land. No one wants to ride until they see water comming then it's too late.
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  writetoknow

  Who made the society Noah? Amazing that is the age old excuse the society uses to let themselves off for changed doctrine for the last hundred years.

  And hey thats great, but my friend, the word hypocrisy means this: false claim to virtue; insincerity; pretense. instance of this. deceit, duplicity. play acting, double-dealer, pretender, two-faced, dishonest.

  So what of the thousand of people disfellowshipped over doctrine that now have changed? Was their stand against those JW's false doctrines wrong or right? Are they to be faithful to God or man?

  And why do you hold all other religions accountable to Gehenna for going a long with false doctrine, that is, if they don't get out of Bablyon the Great and become a baptize Jehovah's Witness?

  The teachings are clear it goes something like this: All other groups are indiviaullly held accountable for accepting the false teachings of their group/organization/religion if they don't take the warning about their false teachings by JW's when they knock on their door to delievery the message of Noah. Then they are (based on the teachings of JW's) get out of that false religion or Bablyon the Great the world empire of false regelion.

  Jehovah Witnesses are saved because they associate with the Organization of Jehovah's Witnesses. JW's state it's individual judgment, but you will not get salvation unless your are a part of the arrangement? On the other side during the thousands year rule of Christ it then becomes individual judgment at the end of the 1000 years the last test. (God is very merciful because it takes a 1000 years of training to become perfect.)

  But the billions of people this side of the tribulation are destroyed into everlasting cutting off because they did not accept the "purer" teachings of Jehovah's Witnessess and become one of them. So the teaching's of Jehovahs Witnesses have to be directly from God through their governing body. They are the modern day Noah class pronoucing God's judgment on earth!

  That a heavy judgment you better be right 100% of the time. If your judgment has double standards one for your religion and one for others that makes you a hypocrite and Christ condemn the religious hypocrits as being unforgiveable.

  You better be absoluately correct when you personally condemn people of other groups as worth of everlasting cutting off if they don't accept your perfect message. You better check every inch of the doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses before you condemn others for standing against those false teachings.

  To deprive a person of the underserved kindness of God, that is, the blood of Christ, that no religious group on earth can claim or hold in it's doctrine is a most serious teaching. Once again purer water is life giving one drop of false doctrine pollute all the water. The many changes in Jehovah's Witnesses doctrine label, growth, new, light and so on... was false doctrine. Those false doctrines where used to judge inside and outside their organization mercilessly.

  And why would you want to self appoint yourself as Noah the person that judge's the world?

  "Be careful not to perform your good works publicly to be noticed by the people; else you forfeit your reward with your heavenly Father."

  "Do not pass judgment, so you may not be judged; for the way you judge you will be judged and with what yardstick you measure you will be measured."

  Most religious groups today believe they are living in the last days - if your open minded and honest hearted just ask them. So what warning are they rejecting? The teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses or that were living in the last days?

  So shall it be at the end of time, the "angels" shall come out and separate the wicked from the righteous."

  "Accordingly, dear friend, as you have these expectations, do your utmost to be found at peace with Him spotless and blameless,

  "You have heard how it was said, "Love your neighobor and hate your enemy" But I say to you, Love your enemy and "pray" for your persecutors."

  Remind them to be subject to the ruling authorities; to be obedient' to be prepared for every good activity, not to slander anyone; not to be quarrelsome but lenient, showing unqualified mildess toward "all people".

  "But let your word Yes be Yes and your No, No. Anything beyond this if from the evil one."

  You have heard how the ancients were told. "Do not murder!" and, "Whoever murders is liable before the court." But I tell you that anyone who is angry at his brother without cause is liable before the court, and whoever says :You fool!" is liable to the fires of hell.
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  Kenneson

  The FDS claims not to speak in Jehovah's name, but yet they use Jehovah's name and his word, the Bible, as if they are the only ones entrusted with them. You supposedly can't understand correctly without their explanation.
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  writetoknow

  Well there is an old says "don't confuse me with the facts". If a person is honestly wanting the truth and they are being fair the record of JW's society on a number of doctrinal issues as well as the treatment of their own is more then abundant.

  It is my belief that most that start looking with an open mind do so because they have had the arrangement attack them for simple questions or they put into a spot that they must disagree with the group.

  There is a real double standard that they apply to other groups. I am not saying they don't have some of the truth or some of their teachings aren't right on. Most of what Christ had an issue with while on earth was the treatment of the people by other religious people.

  Simply put, no group has it right enough to condemn other to eternal cutting off. Sadly, most people in religious groups today believe it is about perfect doctrine, The facts are if it were about perfect doctrine and that was the bases for judgment every group on earth would be condemned.

  One lump of leaven ferments the whole mass. If that lump is false teachings then the whole mass is fermented. To state our group has less leaven then another and then judge the other groups is not being honest.

  For that reason the judgment of such great importance was left to God and His son Christ Jesus who with the angle seperate the good from the bad the wheat from the weed the good fish from the bad. It is done with God's spirit not man's judgment and it will be based on love and fairness and mercy.

  Thousands upon thousands of Christain have died since Christ walking the earth none of them held the teachings of the modern day group called JW's. Yet they died for something - was their death in vain?

  JW's make themselves a special group on earth today because of that specialness they believe God has a double standard much like the Jews did when Christ walked the earth. The question was not about the teachings as it was about how they treated each other according to the Law.

  The Law condemn everyone, everyone, there was no way out without mercy and forgiveness. The Jew's kinda missed that point they like the way out for themselves but for others well they were special chosen of God. So mercy forgiveness was something for them but not others.

  JW's is as close of thing on earth as a modern day Jew's class of people. They don't look to any of the grace and forgiveness of Christ and the new covant. From the moment you come into the organization it is about judging other groups proving yourself righteous by good works. If you fail an openly confess your sin as the bible encourages you will most like be removed or public reproved. When forgiveness is granted the transgression will always fellow you the rest of your association with the group. Much worst they will talk about it behind your back and it will be passed on from generation to generation.

  Moreover, you will hear over and over again how great how much better JW's are then any other group. There will be comparsion upon comparsion at the same time judging other groups that brag on themselves. Furthermore, your life and your day will be filled up with wrangling in your mind about every little things is this correct according to Jehovah, can I do this, how will this look, what if someone see me. Christ did not wrangle he knew God's love. (They are taught much like a saleman to be in control of the conversation if their in control they win and the are not contaminated by false doctrine. They are fear driven - love throws fear outside

  They learn not to listen to anyone accept their own they simply can't because they are always proving themselves righteous. The more they can hammer someone with the bible the righter they feel that they have the only correct religion on earth.

  Then they will uses the past exsample of acient Christain that stood up to groups that taught incorrect doctrines. Sadly again at one time JW's did that and were treated badly - now they treat their own badly if a person stand up because of conscience do to a false teaching. They do exactly what the churches did in the dark past - they disfellowship and call the person an appostate (ruining there name and reputation no matter how many faithful years of service). Years later when the truth (or they change the doctrine) comes out they say nothing and blame it onto a congreation or the elders for disfellowships. (some that were over zealous) It never stated we were just trying to be faithful to GB. Or if we did not disfellowship this person we would be disfellowshipped ourselves. Abuse comes from the controller when the victim protects the controllers conduct they are brainwashed out of fear of losing something. (they have been made to believe they cannot think for themselves or are not worthy to think for themselves.)

  No matter how many verses in the bible that don't match Christian conduct they will justify it by reading past artcials that explain away the missmatch of conduct and Christ example or they will believe they are exception - because they are special.

  Antisocial means making yourself an exceptions to the laws that apply to everyone else in society. Most crimials make themselves an exception to the laws of society. Their reason is; they think they are smarter and they are special. God is not partial He is not going to condemn billions to death for false teachings and let off another group that has false teachings.

  Not to be judged over sin/false doctrines there would have to be something greater and that would be mercy through the blood of the lamb Christ Jesus. If God looked at the doctrine of the Jew's on passover night (Moses) none of them would have stood. Thankfully for them He looked at the blood on the door post and the angle of death passover. Later during Christ time God again looked at the blood instead of the Jew's violation and hatard of other groups.

  Christ is our passover hopefully we will learn mercy and God will look at the blood of His Son instead of us and passover. Hopefully all Christain will learn it is about personal responsibility not group when God looks at the blood spinkled on our hearts not the groups collective heart. Each person will stand before the throne of God's judgment. Anyone thinking because they are part of group they can sail free while God destroys billions for individual responsibility is using the scales of justice man has used for thousands of years in Christendom when they destroy millions upon million of people that did not agree with them in the name of God.

  They are not using God's scale of justice which state we are all deserving of death unless we accept the underserved kindness of God through the blood of His Son Christ Jesus. He did not say you must accept the blood of Christ through the modern day organization of Jehovah's Witnesses and all those that died in the past the blood of Christ did not apply because they did not have the purer doctrine according JW's.

  Or that the blood Christ can be distributed by a man or a group or a religious corporation. No I think it stated it is a free gift for any that want to use it. In fact, Christ states no one on earth can take one of his sheep from his hand he alone is the fine shepard none were found worthy in heaven or earth to take his oversigt of those he loves.

  God has paid a high price for the human race that which He has paid for and bought no human being could pay the price. I don't think I want to tell God how to spend his money or treat one of his children badly that which He paid such a high price for. If your a father let someone tell you that your children aren't your chidren and that you don't love them and they deserved to be destroyed. How friendly will you be to that person?