UNbaptised, DISfellowshipped & Free

by Miss 8572 18 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Miss 8572
    Miss 8572

    So hello everyone... I'm a brand new member and happy to be here... to know I am not alone.

    I have been a JW since birth however I was never "encouraged"/forced to get baptised by my parents (lucky me!) I always considered myself a member on the fringes of my congeregation and almost everybody treated me as a member even though I never commented or went in service. The only thing that was keeping me going was that all of my friends were in "the truth" (in different congregations). I had a pretty great social network but somehow my best friend and I would manage to get into debates - about religious practices, policies, doctrine, you name it - which she called "fights" or "arguments." One of our major disagreements was on the topic of... surprise, surprise... disfellowshipment.

    While I have never been victimized by this policy it is my position that it is hardly a christian practice and that it is a violation of basic rights and freedoms. Her view of it was that it keeps the congregation clean and that in almost every case the disfellowshipped person will return becuase they miss the social network and will realize how wrong they were, come running back to the fold and feel better.

    Other debates which centered around a variety of religious issues (which you discuss in this forum) went on for about 2 years. She was always trying to "encourage" me and boss me around spiritually to an annoying degree. I guess she finally gave up foisting her beliefs on me. Just about 3 days ago, out of the blue, she called me up crying and told me "this is really hard." We couldn't be friends anymore specifically because of my attitudes on all these discussed subjects. I would blame myself for being to outspoken and too much of a libertarian hippie except that I know she's wrong.
    The uncomfortable part is almost all of my friends are her friends... so as I told her "It's like I have been disfellowshiped without being baptised." I will feel uncommon around all these people which I used to call friends because she will undoubtedly tell them I am apostate. I simply remained calm on the phone (knowing this day would eventually come), asked her to treat me with a little dignity when discussing this with others, and said goodbye. She told me "hopefully one day you will find your answers and we can be friends again." Translation: Maybe someday you will ignore what you know is true and come back because you have no friends and need me.

    WELL THERE IS NO CHANCE OF THAT... I'm off the deep end and free now! I have never felt more at peace with myself and my religious thoughts. I don't think I'll ever return. Especially not now, after this. Instead I feel like shouting and protesting against what is so clearly a cult. I have the challenge of developing friends in "the world" now but it's been my experience that my school friends in "the world" were more accepting and christian and less hypocritical anyways. It's mind over matter!

    Thanks for reading my story.
    Any comments on this topic would be appreciated.

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    Welcome to the forum!!!!

    Likely you never feel any need to return to the 'vomit' that is called the 'truth' to those too blind to see through it.

    You seem strong enough to endure and prosper from this turn of events. All Jw 'love' is conditional, even to those not baptised into the beliefs. You have been 'marked' I suppose technically, as bad association and dangerous leaven, likely spurned on by others behind the scenes.

    Glad to have you here - the healing will likely be rather quick for you, as I percieve you are young and resilient. Power on. And thanx for sharing.

    Jeff

  • bluebell
    bluebell

    welcome to the forum!

  • free2think
    free2think

    Welcome to the board Miss 8572,

    what you said really struck a cord with me

    it's been my experience that my school friends in "the world" were more accepting and christian and less hypocritical anyways.

    as I have often thought and said this myself when I was growing up. Little did I know huh. I know it can seem daunting starting from scratch, having to make a whole new set of friends but you've made the right move joining the board, which is the first step.

    Thanks for sharing your story.

  • R.F.
    R.F.

    Welcome to JWD!

    Please continue visiting here because you will find much understanding and comfort. As was stated, JW love is conditional on the fact that you must agree with everything the is given by the WTS. I'd definitely focus on making friends that love you for YOU.

    Glad to see another realize the org for what it really is!

  • delilah
    delilah

    Welcome, Miss......nice to have you here.

  • BFD
    BFD

    Oh, there you are. Welcome again, Miss. I saw your post on another thread then went and looked for your original post and must have overlooked it and now it seems to have popped up.

    Thanks for sharing. Glad you're here!

    BFD

  • DJK
    DJK

    Welcome to the forum.

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    Welcome to the forum!!!!

    Pull up a keyboard and type a spell.

    Open Mind

  • dawg
    dawg

    You're friend was/is an idiot, you should have told her that until she's willing to do as the Bible commands her and "make sure of all things" you feel she will certainly die at armageddon for refusing the Bible's advice. You have taken the road as outlined in the Bible and by "making sure" you found out that the Borg is guilty of the un-bibical pratice of requireing it's members to follow the dicates of men above and beyond what is outlined in the bible. Ask her where the Bible says that you as a person have no right to quesiton the authority of men; when she says that the Borg is "god's organization" or something to that effect, ask her if she knows the difference between the GB and God. ask her how could it be possible that God's spirit directs them into all sorts of foolish errors... Beth Siram, false predictions, changed policies, and the like. I've been doingf this and have had great sucess, when they try and get off the subject... you know, saying stuff like they correct their error and the like, say that's what all men do, God has no errors to correct only men do and if they're just men then you are going aganist the bible folowing their dictates. I think the disfellowshipment for porn is a prime example, where does the Bible say that you shouldn't speak to a man that looks a porn? Where does the Bible saythat one shouldn't speak to someone that says somehthing about foolish men? I'm sure you know the drill

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