IS THERE EVEN A SINGLE, VERIFIABLE EXAMPLE OF.........?

by Terry 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    "Verifiable" is probably too much to ask, but I don't think it impossible that a few short-term "prophecies" were indeed made before the fact and approximately "fulfilled" -- Jeremiah's or Ezekiel's predictions of Jerusalem's fall, for instance, which were not beyond the reach of political prognosis to a Jewish mind free from, or adverse to, Judean nationalistic enthusiasm; Ezekiel's ones have a particularly genuine ring, as they coexist with others (e.g. on Tyre) which were not fulfilled. It seems fair to say that the prophets could not always be wrong (even a dead clock is right twice a day after all).

    The limit of the historical method is that we can never be sure about fulfilled prophecies: only the obviously failed ones can be shown to have been uttered before the (non-)event.

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet
    do you mean a typical fulfillment Terry, or an anti-typical one?

    There's a phrase I never thought I would hear again in a hurry! Why did they say anti-typical? Doesnt the word atypical mean the same thing?

  • lowden
    lowden

    The Messiah,Fall of Israel & Babylon- for 2 quickies for you to deny!

    What bloody planet did you fly in off lad??????????

    The MESSIAH?

    So a load of guff that some blokes wrote nearly 2,000 yrs ago is enough for you to believe that jesus was the messiah, god's ( the fascist arsehole) son?

    Winnie the Pooh is easier to believe in.

    The fall of Babylon?

    Dates. VERIFIABLE DATES!! Not ones stamped with approval by organisations desperate to support dodgy ancient writings.

    Deal in facts lad, not fairy tales.

    Lowden

  • TopHat
    TopHat

    So a load of guff that some blokes wrote nearly 2,000 yrs ago is enough for you to believe that jesus was the messiah, god's ( the fascist arsehole) son?

    Damn! Lowden! What flew up your arse?

  • Terry
    Terry

    "Verifiable" is probably too much to ask, but I don't think it impossible that a few short-term "prophecies" were indeed made before the fact and approximately "fulfilled" -- Jeremiah's or Ezekiel's predictions of Jerusalem's fall, for instance, which were not beyond the reach of political prognosis to a Jewish mind free from, or adverse to, Judean nationalistic enthusiasm; Ezekiel's ones have a particularly genuine ring, as they coexist with others (e.g. on Tyre) which were not fulfilled. It seems fair to say that the prophets could not always be wrong (even a dead clock is right twice a day after all).

    The limit of the historical method is that we can never be sure about fulfilled prophecies: only the obviously failed ones can be shown to have been uttered before the (non-)event.

    "Verifiable is probably too much to ask"--------is a statement full of sadness. Yet, it is all we have we can say with confidence.

    The present day concept Christians have of what an old testament PROPHET really was-- is very much at odds with reality from what I gather. There was quite a tolerance in Israel for rag-tag gadfly personalities who spoke by invoking the deity. This seemed to carry through even into the New Testament time period as evidenced by Gamaliel's plea on behalf of Christians. A "wait-and-see" attitude was not seen to be simply good manners, but, a safety zone one could position themselves in just-in-case God was really chastising you.

    The laundry list of "fulfilled" prophecies is mostly a bluff of hubris and evidence of historical ignorance on the part of inerrantists.

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    Terry, You might chech out "Thief In The Night' by William Sears. Don't know if is available on line or not, but it puts a different twist on biblical prophecy. Just a thought! carmel

  • bigmouth
    bigmouth

    "Why did they say anti-typical? Doesnt the word atypical mean the same thing?" - Crumpet

    "What!? Flammable and in-flammable mean the same thing??" - Dr Nick Riviera

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