Did the JWs conceal crucial info before your baptism

by greendawn 24 Replies latest jw experiences

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  DannyHaszard

  They failed to tell me that joining the religion was like joining the mob... there's no honorable way to leave and if you do leave they will actively pursue you in order to cause you harm.

  Usually though underworld gangsters and most criminals are 'honest crooks' they just want to make money and some have a code of honor not to 'hit below the belt' and leave woman & children (your family) alone.

  Jehovah's Witneses do go after your family and will hold them hostage and are blasphemous Bible thumping 'wolves in sheep's clothing'.-Danny Haszard
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  Deputy Dog

  greendawn

  Deputy dog of course you are not supposed to know the things that will immediately turn you off the WTS, they will lose a convert that will spend time to sell their publications without cost to them ie an economic asset.

  You're right, but withholding the truth and outright lying are two different things. They can outright lie and justify anything they want, before they get you in.
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  zack

  I was raised in it. They baptized me as a young teen. Hell, I wasn't even old enough to drive. It was basically "get baptized" or "be destroyed at Armageddon."

  Be destroyed at Armageddon for not being baptized? Doesn't Jehovah see the heart?

  'Yes, he does, but now you have knowledge and that makes you accountable so if you don't get baptized, then he'll have no choice but to destroy you.'

  I WISH MY GRANDMOTHER HAD BEEN A LITTLE MORE EDUCATED SO SHE COULD HAVE TURNED THESE PEOPLE AWAY FROM HER LIFE, AND SUBSEQUENTLY OURS,

  LONG BEFORE I WAS BORN. THEY ARE THE DEVIL!
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  lonelysheep

  LOL Elsewhere! Nicely put.

  For those that became JWs but weren't born in the cult, do you feel that before baptism the dubs withheld from you information that should have been revealed, things that if you were aware of you wouldn't become a JW in the first place, such as the heartless DFing policy.

  I was already brainwashed hooked, but if I knew these things prior to giving in, I wouldn't have:

  Their UN involvement

  College being discouraged

  Lack of all holidays

  Shunning

  Just how isolated you truly have to make yourself from things and people that are not "bad"!
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  Moomin

  Hi Greendawn,

  There was a jw lady who told me about her disfellowshipped daughter, she mentioned that she didn't speak to her. She told me she'd tell me why another time.

  I naively thought that she meant when she got to know me better . I believed that they weren't speaking as a temporary result of a big agument or something.

  She did tell me the real reason though, after I'd got baptized.

  Moomin
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  moshe

  yea-1914, most of the JW "truths" I was indoctrinated with were born in the mind of a drunk and sociopathic liar , Judge Rutherford, 2nd president of the WT Society.
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  OnTheWayOut

  Well, they do not talk of DF'ing at all. They don't talk of their historic prophetic claims that
  "the end will arrive" in 1014, 1915, etc... Before my baptism, the two questions were not
  mentioned, so I didn't even realize the importance of dedication to an organization, I just
  thought it was a dedication to God.

  Since my baptism, I realize that every person should question everything. But is the
  failure to do so caused by WTS? I say "YES." Even the typical rank and file is taught
  to be evasive in tackling questions by students. That's not an accident.

  Their current BIBLE TEACH book is so much fluff. It doesn't discuss the Governing Body
  and the anointed at all. It pushes for baptism within 6 months of starting to study, and without
  any real knowledge of the organization, just the feeling that the things in that book are
  promises from God.
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  nvrgnbk

  moshe said:

  yea-1914, most of the JW "truths" I was indoctrinated with were born in the mind of a drunk and sociopathic liar , Judge Rutherford, 2nd president of the WT Society.

  Didn't they also employ a type of Shekinah-light machine to get "guidance" during the Rutherford-era?
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  DannyHaszard

  Danny Haszard was baptized 1967 at age 11 I was so traumatized I cried.
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  LongHairGal

  Greendawn:

  Why yes, they did. For one thing, if I knew about their past and their changed teachings and wrong prophecies I would never have joined the religion. They also played down or didn't mention about how they insert themselves between the average person and Jesus (a belief which I consider to be outrageous). Among other things, I also felt they played down the need for you to attend all the burdensome meetings and assemblies.

  LHG