Personal Ethics of XJWs

by NanaR 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • NanaR
    NanaR

    While reading on JWD last night and this morning, I was reminded of a situation that I had with my husband when I told him I was not ever going back to the Kingdom Hall (this happened in October 2006 so relatively recently). This statement should not have come as a great surprise to him, as he knows that I now belong to the American Legion Auxiliary (in fact I am the local Unit President), that I vote, and that I helped convince our daughter to have a blood transfusion that may have saved her life. Also I had told him in the past that he should NOT set up any meetings FOR ME with the elders as I would NOT talk to them.

    In spite of his knowledge of my present activities, his reaction to my "never going back" statement was severe. He insisted that this would drive a wedge between us, that it could divide us. Now, I should also mention that my husband has not been to any meeting other than memorial for several years (he stopped going to meetings at the same time that I did), although he periodically tells me he is "going back". Also, our marriage has been closer and much more loving since we stopped going to meetings than it was before, perhaps because we take more time for EACH OTHER now.

    Once I had talked with him for a while, I discerned that he was afraid that my renouncing the Witnesses meant that I had lost all my moral and ethical values. This is patently NOT true; I have NEVER been unfaithful to my husband and don't have any intention of ever being unfaithful to him. I also do not lie, cheat, steal, etc., etc. I consider myself a highly ethical person, and in fact I feel MORE consistently ethical now that I weigh things in terms of my personal ethical standards and not in terms of the "well you can do this so long as you don't do that" stand that the WT takes on so many things.

    I assured him that I love him completely and unconditionally and that was not changing. I assured him that I still believe in God, I just don't believe that the Witnesses are his sole representatives on earth. I assured him that I was not going to try to "change his mind" about anything -- that what he chooses to believe is up to his own conscience.

    Things settled down, and we are doing fine. But I was shocked at how I had forgotten that most Witnesses equate leaving the organization with becoming immoral persons.

    I have done nothing since leaving the WTS that I am ashamed of. I no longer think that saluting the flag, voting, or taking blood transfusions are immoral actions although engaging in promoting them means, I know, that I have (in fact if not officially by letter) disassociated myself from those whom I used to believe were "God's People".

    My personal ethics now are based on the "love thy neighbor as thyself" commandment and the Golden Rule which is based on it. Also I like the phrase "first, do no harm". So many times we try to do good (have good intentions) but unwittingly interfere with something we should have stayed out of.

    I volunteer at the VA hospital, I serve on the Board of Directors of Court Appointed Special Advocates (a group that speaks up for abused and neglected children). I really endeavor to behave in a loving fashion with my husband, my loved ones, and everyone else I encounter. And I am reading the Bible again with new eyes and an open heart. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back here, just show that not everyone who departs from Jehovah's Witnesses is an adulterer, a thief, a gambler, a drunk, or something else. I have NOT commited "conduct unbecoming to a Christian" -- just conduct forbidden to a Jehovah's Witness.

    Also, I feel I should say too that I know several HIGHLY ETHICAL AND MORAL individuals who are atheist, agnostic, or deist, so I'm not saying that religious faith is required to be an ethical and moral person. It is just one facet of MY personality, and I am not judging anyone else by my standards either.

    Anyone else care to comment on the subject of "personal ethics" for the benefit of lurkers who might have a warped impression of XJWs?

    NanaR

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    I get that same attitude from my parents. I was raised in the org never baptised but since I got baptised as a christian my parents think that I am more of an immoral person than I was before. What I mean by that is it was bad enough that I married a worldly man and entered into an immoral marriage (so says my mother ) but by becoming a christain I have totally lost it and am totally under the control of satan good grief!

  • 5thGeneration
    5thGeneration

    Someone actually read through that?

  • minimus
    minimus

    Witnesses are taught that IF you leave the Organization, you will become an immoral person. The ONLY way you can be a good person is by being a JW----that's it!

  • IP_SEC
    IP_SEC

    I dont believe in ethics.

    I believe there are things that can be destructive or constructive to relationships and people or society in general. I want to see individuals and society happy and healthy for my own good and the good of the species. Therefore I try to avoid doing things that are destructive to others, ethics aside.

  • sspo
    sspo

    Last Sunday watchtower brought out that those that leave the Borg choose to live a sinful life.

    If there is 50-60 k witnesses that get df every year, mostly for immorality, there are hundreds of thousands that are forgiven by elders and just get reproved.

    A huge number of witnesses are enjoying a sinful life

  • thepackage
    thepackage

    Most XJWs I know have great personel Ethics. 99% of the people I inteact with are not JW and they have good ethics. I don't think being a JW gives you better ethics, it's all about how you where raised and the example of your parents.

  • Confession
    Confession

    Enjoyed your post, Nana. When it comes to "doing what's right," I think all anyone can ever do is what they believe is right.

    Whether I like it or not, I have a conscience that is, no doubt, the result of my life's experiences--which includes having been a JW for the first 38 years of my life. In the last two years I've done my best to rid myself of the judgmental, puritanical teachings that may have affected my conscience.

    I'll continue to do what will not leave me with a bad conscience.

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    Thanks for your post. JWs do have a twisted view of right and wrong-that it really comes down to their identification with Jehovah's people, rather than their committment to do the right thing to those around them, is another sick statement about the organization. Which surprises none of us. Is your husband active in any part of the world? Or is he lazy as a worldly person and an inactive JW? Does he really think that if he made a real break from the org. and no longer considered himself a JW that he would turn into some guy that he could never respect? Point out to him that as he is NOT an active JW, that he is what he is. And he could be a better or worse person irrespective of his religious affiliation. Maybe he would be a better person if he dropped that last tie and started to be more useful in the 'world.' Or maybe he is a prize of a guy already. That won't change unless he wants it to.

    Shelly

  • J-ex-W
    J-ex-W

    I think you've about said it all! Good for you, and THANK YOU for sharing!!!

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