AWAKE! Urges Questions on United Nations

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  • compound complex
    compound complex

    Dear Friends,

    I am hearing regularly now, from local JWs and JWD, that the Governing Body says the end is -- this time for sure -- near or soon or at hand. Though the following AWAKE! quotation is fifteen years old, it is most certainly timely and useful: it is an invitation to the readers of WT publications to ask questions about exciting developments SOON to take place. Since so much in the publications is "read in between the lines," I infer that, in order to help the public better understand the vital role the UN is to play in the outworking of future events, Jehovah's Witnesses need to learn how Mother and the UN were/are cooperating jointly toward a "far-reaching impact" on everyone's life. How else can they properly answer all the questions that are sure to be asked?

    "Jehovah's Witnesses firmly believe that the United Nations is going to play a major role in world events in the very near future. No doubt these developments will be very exciting. And the results will have a far-reaching impact on your life. We urge you to ask Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighborhood for more details on this matter." -- AWAKE!, 9/8/91, p.?

    These sanitized words are so user-friendly and politically correct that they bear no resemblance to the Rutherfordian rhetoric of 'kill first, ask questions afterward.' Where is the fear?

    Compound-Complex

  • Gopher
    Gopher
    Jehovah's Witnesses firmly believe that the United Nations is going to play a major role in world events in the very near future. No doubt these developments will be very exciting.

    Very near future? 15 years have passed, and there's been no 'end of religion' or anything out of the ordinary coming from the UN.

    We urge you to ask Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighborhood for more details on this matter.

    Why the urgency? And does the average JW comprehend their organization's arcane and ever-changing teachings regarding the book of Revelation? If an ordinary JW were asked for "details" about the UN, what could they really say that would make any sense at all to a householder?

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M
    We urge you to ask Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighborhood for more details on this matter

    ... because we are too embarrassed to give you the official line ourselves. And, we will neither confirm nor deny anything they say.

  • MeneMene
    MeneMene

    Also keep in mind that article was written in 1991 just after they joined the United Nations and were required to promote and support the UN. This very cleverly worded piece would satisfy the UN's requirement and at the same time be read by JWs as something totally different. (IMHO)

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    Menemene, according to the Wikipedia article (see link below), the Watchtower didn't actually affiliate itself with the UN DPI (Department of Public Information) until February 1992 (about 5 months AFTER this Awake article was published). Could it be...the WT Society printed this during the time they were applying for affiliation, to try to demonstrate that they were somehow aligned with UN goals?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses_and_the_United_Nations

  • MeneMene
    MeneMene

    Sorry, didn't check my dates - guess my memory is failing...

  • steve2
    steve2

    I hear on very good authority that, every now and then, Jehovah God taps one of the governing body members on the shoulder and says:

    "This time I really, really mean it: The end is very, very close...so close you can almost touch it. Don't be fooled: I genuinely mean it..this time. Until I tap you on the shoulder next time, please get everyone to door knock as much as possible."

    I can't believe I fell for this crap when I was a school kid and was even talked out of getting a decent education...something I rectified in my thirties and am still not regretting in my fifties...

    Oops, wait for it: Jehovah's about to tap another member of the governing body on the shoulder...again...

  • compound complex
    compound complex

    Dear Friends,

    Thanx for your replies and comments! Please see the following, from THE WATCHTOWER, JUNE 1, 2003, p. 20, para. 11:

    "Gog of Magog is identified as Satan the Devil in his debased condition since 1914. As a spirit creature, he cannot carry out his attack directly, but will use human agencies to do his deeds. Who will these human agencies be? The Bible does not give details, yet it does give us certain indications that can help us to identify who they will be. As world events unfold in fulfillment of Bible prophecies, we gradually get an ever-clearer picture. Jehovah's people avoid speculation but remain spiritually alert, fully aware of political and religious developments that fit into the framework of Bible prophecy."

    Points to ponder:

    1) The UN is not mentioned in the article at all.

    2) The WT formerly explained that God's people would be turned on by the UN.

    3) The Bible gives 'no details' about who will attack JWs.

    4) JWs are not to speculate on WHO [their attacker, not World Health Organization].

    5) JWs remain spiritually alert despite having all the spiritual props knocked out from beneath them.

    For more information, see "Has the Watchtower Eliminated the Role of the United Nations in Prophecy?" -- The Free Minds Journal, vol.22, no.2, May through October 2003, p. 3 - www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/50250/1.ashx

    Therefore, if according to AWAKE!, September 8, 1991, the public is urged to ask JWs at their doors, "What gives?," I do hope that the beneficial resources at our disposal here at JWD and www.freeminds.org might become available to seekers of correct information and passed on to an eager public. It would be helpful if each householder had retained his own personal copy of said AWAKE!

    Compound-Complex

  • compound complex
  • V
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    Awake! 1991 9/8 pp. 8-10 The United Nations—A Better Way?

    The United Nations—A Better Way?

    THE preamble to the United Nations Charter expresses these noble aims: “We the peoples of the United Nations determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, . . . and [desiring] to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, . . . have resolved to combine our efforts to accomplish these aims.”

    Did the UN “accomplish these aims”? Did it get the nations to unite their strength and maintain peace and security? No, not so far, although the UN has sincerely tried to be a significantly better way than the League of Nations. However, the generation that saw its establishment in 1945 has since been scourged by wars, revolutions, invasions, coups, and aggression in many parts of the earth. And this violence involved many of the nations that had resolved to “maintain international peace and security.”

    Not the Better Way Yet

    Critics who decry the failure of the United Nations to prevent these woes, though, may be forgetting an important fact—the strength of an organization depends on the power its charter gives it and on the commitment of its constituents to carry out their obligations under said charter. First of all, the United Nations Charter does not set up the UN as a world government with supreme power over all its member nations.

    Article 2(7) decrees: “Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state.” UNCIO (United Nations Conference on International Organization), which met in San Francisco from April 25 to June 26, 1945, to finalize the charter, deemed it necessary “to make sure that the United Nations under prevalent world conditions should not go beyond acceptable limits or exceed due limitations.”

    Did you notice that qualifying phrase, “under prevalent world conditions”? If these were to change, UNCIO claimed that this ruling could be developed “as the state of the world, the public opinion of the world, and the factual interdependence of the world makes it necessary and appropriate.”

    The chartered purpose of the United Nations to maintain “international peace and security” expresses a desirable goal for mankind. The world would indeed be far more secure if the nations obeyed Article 2(4) of the UN Charter: “All Members shall refrain . . . from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state.” But self-interest of member nations has repeatedly hamstrung the efforts of the UN toward achieving its purpose. Rather than living up to their UN commitment to “settle their international disputes by peaceful means,” nations or whole blocs of nations have often resorted to war, claiming that the ‘matter was essentially within their domestic jurisdiction.’—Article 2(3,7).

    Not only have nations ignored UN peace procedures but they have flouted and openly defied its rulings for settling conflicts. And their statesmen have frequently mounted the UN rostrum and delivered long speeches trying to justify their acts of aggression. This skirting of rules that were enacted to maintain peace has all too often paralyzed the UN at critical times and has severely damaged its credibility. UN officials who sit through such sessions are often frustrated. In the end, such talk usually proves to be mere sophistry that attempts to minimize or justify the violence and bloodshed taking place. No wonder UN Secretary-General Javier Pérez de Cuéllar said that the UN “was regarded in some circles as a tower of Babel and at best a venue for often fruitless diplomatic parleys.”

    There is another reason why the UN has had difficulty proving itself to be that better way. When it began functioning on October 24, 1945, “no coherent strategy of peace was put in place,” observed Pérez de Cuéllar. Without this, how could the United Nations become the viable force for securing world peace that it was intended to be?

    What Kind of Peace Could It Achieve?

    Pérez de Cuéllar answers: “Peace will not bring the cessation of all conflict. It will only make conflicts manageable through means other than force or intimidation. . . . The United Nations seeks to train our vision towards that end.” So the only peace that the UN can achieve is control of violence.

    Is this really peace with security? True, “membership in the United Nations is open to all . . . peace-loving states.” (Article 4(1)) But will a nation that is peace-loving when it joins the UN stay that way? Governments change, and new rulers bring in new policies. What if a member turns radical, with extreme nationalistic aims and covetous territorial ambitions? And what if it begins arming itself with nuclear and chemical weapons? The United Nations would now have a ticking time bomb on its hands. Yet, as recent events in the Middle East show, such a turn of events may be the very thing to move the nations to empower the UN to remove this threat to their security.

    Can the Nations Make It a Better Way?

    As never before, the nations are becoming increasingly aware of what UNCIO called “the factual interdependence of the world.” No state can live unto itself anymore. The nations are all members of one international community. All are contending with a series of common problems: the devastating effects of ecological pollution, poverty, debilitating diseases, illicit drug trade on every continent, terrorism, sophisticated nuclear weapons in the arsenals of a growing list of nations. These factors are forcing the nations either to seek peace and security through the auspices of the United Nations or to commit global suicide.

    Former Soviet foreign minister Shevardnadze observed: “The United Nations can function effectively if it has a mandate from its members, if states agree on a voluntary and temporary basis to delegate to it a portion of their sovereign rights and to entrust it with performing certain tasks in the interests of the majority.” He added: “Only in this way can we make the period of peace lasting and irreversible.”

    If this could be done, then the UN’s voice of jurisdiction could authoritatively denounce any nation threatening the peace of the world. With real power at its disposal, it could suppress such aggressors forcefully and swiftly. But will UN member nations ever give it this mandate, ‘making available their armed forces, assistance and facilities’ to secure peace? (Article 43(1)) They might—if a crisis threatened to undermine the very foundation upon which their respective national sovereignties rest. If the nations see that ‘uniting their strength to maintain international peace and security’ under UN auspices could remove such threats, this might increase their respect for it.

    Perhaps you are wondering, ‘Was the UN’s role in the Persian Gulf crisis a start in this direction?’ It could be. Many nations were confronted with the possible calamitous collapse of their economies. And if their interwoven economies crashed, so would the entire world’s. So the nations rallied together under the United Nations. The Security Council passed a series of UN resolutions to end the crisis peacefully, and when this failed, it backed a UN resolution on the use of force in the Gulf.

    U.S. Secretary of State James Baker, in calling for this resolution, said: “History has now given us another chance. With the cold war behind us, we now have the chance to build a world which was envisioned by the founders of . . . the United Nations. We have the chance to make this Security Council and this United Nations true instruments for peace and for justice across the globe. . . . We must fulfill our common vision of a peaceful and just post-cold-war world.” And he observed concerning their debate about the use of force in the Gulf: “[It] will, I think, rank as one of the most important in the history of the United Nations. It will surely do much to determine the future of this body.”

    Jehovah’s Witnesses firmly believe that the United Nations is going to play a major role in world events in the very near future. No doubt these developments will be very exciting. And the results will have a far-reaching impact on your life. We urge you to ask Jehovah’s Witnesses in your neighborhood for more details on this matter. The Bible clearly paints a picture showing that the United Nations will very shortly be given power and authority. The UN will then do some very astonishing things that may well amaze you. And you will be thrilled to learn that there is yet a better way near at hand that will surely bring eternal peace and security!

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