MIL says thousands of babies found under ancient Catholic Church!

by bluesapphire 24 Replies latest jw friends

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  bluesapphire

  Anyone heard about this? I haven't found any info about it.

  My MIL took advantage of my being in Costa Rica by inviting my husband out for dinner with the sole purpose of trying to get him to go back to the meetings. She's afraid to take me on so she would never do this in my presence. Hehehehe

  When she gave him the new tract she went on and on about the pedophile issue in the Catholic Church to which my husband responded, "Well you guys are not exactly innocent in that regard." She responded, "Oh, that was only ONE CASE!" Yeah, right!

  Then she said that the Catholic Church is evil and sacrifices babies and that thousands of baby skeletons were found excavated under an ancient church. My husband said, "Oh, really? And you know this from...?" To which she had no answer. So we think it's an urban legend going around amongst the JWs.
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  Warlock

  blue,

  I've heard the story, and it was not from a J.W. The thought was, those were aborted babies that were buried under a church, or some churches. They said the unwanted pregnancies were the result of priests and nuns having relations.

  I know it was an article somewhere, but I can't remember where.

  Warlock
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  Leolaia

  Hasn't she ever heard of a children's cemetary? LOL....she's like someone saying that the people of any random city are all mass murderers because the city has several fields that are filled with human remains (aka cemetaries).

  Infant and child mortality was a leading cause of death prior to the 20th century. About 30-50% of people born during the Middle Ages died in their childhood from disease, malnutrition, and other factors....not murder. Today we have childhood vaccinations and far better quality of life. As today, cemetaries are usually located near or at churches. With so many children dying in earlier generations, what else would one expect?
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  Warlock

  http://www.churchtown.net

  Scroll down to "Memories" and look there.

  Warlock
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  mouthy

  Read the book "Maria Monk"it talks about Montreals Nuns Island...As a witness I heard about it I went to see the Church they had a big" lazy susy"built into the wall. The story was that unwed Mothers used to take their babies & put them on to this roundabout tray ( Lazy Susy) & the Nuns would take the babies into the convent. But the other story was that the Nuns used to have the babies & put them on the tray to go out to the world... I heard this when I was 10 my Mother had the book. & my Dad destroyed it. ( as she had a nervous breakdown when she got involved with the Bible Students( never became one)So if any one can ever trace that book again remember I am now 79 so the book is a very old one... I would love to find it again as to the stories above you think what you want I dont know what is truth & what is rumor... I do know St Josephs Oratory - The one the story is about --that I visited often as a JW ( I would take all my studies to see all the crutches hanging up & tell them for all the years I was knocking on doors never found a person who had left their crutches there. Also I would point out all the Candles you could light for a price for some one.25 cent $2.00 .$10.00,$25.00-- I used to make sure I would stop a Preist there ( in front of my study)& ask them where the HOLY WATER they were selling came from...they would reply from the tap! but they had blessed it!!! I would show my studies the heart under glass ( Brother Andra) the one whos heart it was ( a priest) it had been kissed so many times the wood around the glass was worn down..Until some one stole it.... Also show them the PLANK that He was suppoose to have slept on every night. & then the stairs HUNDREDS of them... that are worn down owing to the faithful praying on every step of the Shrine
  God can you wonder why I led so many people into the Cult of the JWS after taking them through all of this. O.K. I need to be shot I know it.
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  Elsewhere

  I don't know anything about babies under churches, but I do know that during the crusades the priests would baptize captured babies and then immediately crush their sculls to ensure they went to heaven.

  This is what belief in gawd and the after life does to people. Think about it... according to the priests' beliefs, the babies would have ended up burning in hell for all eternity if he did not baptize and then kill them.

  Their religious beliefs made then conclude that this was the most logical and compassionate thing to do.
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  mouthy

  The terrible things done in the name of GOD!!!!
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  LongHairGal

  Unfortunately, stories like this are not urban JW legends but really happened. I have heard stories like this about churches in Europe where they have excavated and found infant skeletons buried. Apparently, these were out of wedlock babies the nuns gave birth to. I assume the priests fathered them.
  
  I also heard a sick story when I was in catholic grade school. The nun told a story of some European country long ago where they were making a bell for the bell tower and some woman donated her infant to get put into the molten mix to make the bell. Supposedly, the bell was better sounding than any other bell around! But in my child's mind the story was creepy. There was also another sick story of somebody who donated their infant to be buried under the threshold, etc.
  
  I believe these sick stories because in times past people were superstitious and callous about human life and the church was very influential.
  
  
  LHG
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  bluesapphire

  Warlock, the following is the table of contents under "memories". I've looked through some of them but cannot find what you're referring me to. Which one of these do you think it might be?

  1	Memories and Poems of Anne Ellen Ring
  2	Biddy's Tree, Churchtown by Ruairi Hickey
  3	Churchtown by Bridie Hawe
  4	Bruhenny In a Golden Light by Albert Henry Daly
  5	My Memories of Churchtown 1949 to 1959 by Patricia Lancaster nee Broomfield
  6	Churchtown Creamery by Bill O' Flynn
  7	Churchtown School in the 1920s by Bill O'Flynn
  8	"Cillin" by Noel Linehan
  9	Dan O Hara's Chorus
  10	Denis O' Leary
  11	"We were happy with what we had"
  12	Densy Egan
  13	Eddie Galligan
  14	A Stone To Mark The Spot by Edward Flannery
  15	A Day's Shooting by Paddy Fitzpatrick
  16	The Townland of Clashalane by Frank Guiney
  17	Ours was a Music House by Hannah Hawe
  18	Holding back the years by Denis Pat Costelloe (assisted by Denis Hickey)
  19	The Imogane Road by Mary Twomey
  20	The Late Jimmy O'Sullivan by Mary O' Sullivan
  21	"In my fathers time" by John Browne
  22	My views of life by John Coughlan - Ballyvaheen
  23	Working in Ballybeg Quarry by John Quinn
  24	John Thompson
  25	The Crab Stock by Mrs. Kitty Fitzgerald
  26	Looking Back Through The Years by Margaret McAuliffe
  27	Mary Corkery
  28	Miss Mary O' Connor
  29	Matt O' Callaghan
  30	Memories of Churchtown by Brigid O'Sullivan
  31	Michael & Daphne Leaf
  32	Looking Back To My Young Days by Mick (Hassett) Egan
  33	Mrs Buckley
  34	Mrs Curtin
  35	Peggy Toppin
  36	Hunting Hall by Mrs Margaret Cronin
  37	My Holiday in Churchtown by Margaret Toppin
  38	"My School" Poem by Donal O' Sullivan
  39	Myra Aherne
  40	Ned O Sullivan -Imogane
  41	Growing up in Beeing by Mrs Nora Cronin - Ballygrace
  42	Playing the fiddle - Nora Farrissey (By her sister Moolie)
  43	Rose O'Brien (USA)
  44	Paddy McMahon
  45	Mrs Peg O'Sullivan
  46	Breda Butler (5.8.2005)
  47	Sheila Fitzpatrick
  48	Looking Back Through The Years by Margaret McAuliffe
  49	Mr. And Mrs. Daly
  50	The Hedge School in Ballygrace by Noel Linehan
  51	The Homecoming of Cottage Rake by John Browne
  52	Tribute to 1969 GAA Team by Helen Morrissey
  53	An Unforgettable Experience By Willie Joe Condon
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  lovelylil

  We all know we should believe the stories the Witnesses tell right? LOL

  My family has been Roman Catholics for many generations. My father told me when I was young that there have been some dead babies found in the walls of old Catholic Monastaries. The thought is that some Nuns got pregnant by the Priests, gave birth in thier rooms, killed the baby and placed it in the wall. But he only heard of it happening maybe twice and there was no real evidence of that either. But Thousands of dead babies? Come on, that sounds like a tall tale to me and the JW's are just trying to make the Catholic church look evil.

  I for one agree with Leolaia, that if there was a large number of babies found UNDER the church, most likely the church was built on an old children's cemetary. Lilly