Blood issue, I finally got it

by OnTheWayOut 18 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    The JW doctrine of "No Blood" has never affected me, personally. I knew that either
    Jehovah's Witnesses were wrong or the rest of the world was wrong. Odds were, it
    was the JW's. But I never fully understood why JW's would be wrong.

    Research helped, but mainly this link- http://jwfacts.com/index_files/blooddoctrine.htm
    got me straight. Here's what I learned, how I finally got it:

    God gave Noah a law regarding to the killing and eating of animals.
    Gen. 9:4 says “Only flesh with its soul, its blood, YOU must not eat.”
    It means that an animal should not be eaten while still alive. In general it is understood to
    mean that out of respect for the life of an animal, it was to be bled when being killed for food.

    The Mosaic Law did say that anyone who eats blood will be cut off from God's people.
    Jesus fulfilled the law and put an end to it.

    Watchtower 2000 October 15 p.31 says:

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Watchtower 2000 October 15 p.31

    “Occasionally, a doctor will urge a patient to deposit his own blood weeks before surgery (preoperative autologous blood donation, or PAD) so that if the need arises, he could transfuse the patient with his own stored blood. However, such collecting, storing, and transfusing of blood directly contradicts what is said in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Blood is not to be stored; it is to be poured out—returned to God, as it were. Granted, the Mosaic Law is not in force now. Nevertheless, Jehovah’s Witnesses respect the principles God included in it, and they are determined to ‘abstain from blood.’ Hence, we do not donate blood, nor do we store for transfusion our blood that should be ‘poured out.’ That practice conflicts with God’s law.”

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Paul warned against those that revert to the Mosaic Law;

    2 Corinthians 3:14-15

    “But their mental powers were dulled. For to this present day the same veil remains unlifted at the reading of the old covenant, because it is done away with by means of Christ. 15 In fact, down till today whenever Moses is read, a veil lies upon their hearts.”

    At Acts chapter 15 and chapter 21 it is recorded that the Apostles and Older Men gave a decree to “abstain from blood”. At first glance this may be taken to imply that the Mosaic Law was to continue applying to Christians in regard to consumption of blood. This is how Jehovah’s Witnesses currently understand this scripture and is their predominate support for refusing blood transfusions.

    This is not how this scripture is understood by the majority of Christian religions or Pastor Russell. The situation at Acts was very specific. Jewish Christians were having difficulty accepting Gentile Christians. Paul, the Apostle to the Nations, was converting Gentiles and rightfully taught that they were not obligated to follow the Mosaic Law. Judaizers were a group of Jewish Christians claiming to be superior to the Gentile Christians due to following the Mosaic Law. As explained in the New Catholic Encyclopaedia, Judaizers were;

    “A party of Jewish Christians in the Early Church, who either held that circumcision and the observance of the Mosaic Law were necessary for salvation and in consequence wished to impose them on the Gentile converts, or who at least considered them as still obligatory on the Jewish Christians.”

    The Apostles and older men convened to discuss the application of the Mosaic Law and came to the conclusion that observation of the Mosaic Law was unnecessary. However they recommended that ‘the believers from among the nations’ observe fours things from the Mosaic Law.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    This is not an exhaustive list of things to abstain from (murder being obvious omission) so why was this unusual list given. It was to prevent stumbling Jewish brothers. This was explained in the Watch Tower 1909 April 15 pp. 116-117 and is the common Christian understanding. The New Catholic Encyclopaedia states;

    “These four prohibitions were imposed for the sake of charity and union. As they forbade practices which were held in special abhorrence by all the Jews, their observance was necessary to avoid shocking the Jewish brethren and to make free intercourse between the two classes of Christians possible….

    With the disappearance of the Jewish-Christian community of Jerusalem at the time of the rebellion (A.D. 67-70), the question about circumcision and the observance of the Law ceased to be of any importance in the Church, and soon became a dead issue.” (The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume VIII Copyright © 1910 by Robert Appleton Company Online Edition Copyright © 2003 by K. Knight as displayed at http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08537a.htm 17/09/2005)

    How do both scholars and Russell reach this conclusion? Firstly, as the Mosaic Law had ceased to apply it does not make sense for Christians to be required to retain only this portion of it. Particularly is this so when considering that these four things are not the only Mosaic rules that a Christian must follow, nor are they the most important ones.

    James explained why the four things mentioned at Acts 15:20 were specifically chosen in the very next verse.

    Acts 15:19-21

    ” 1 Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God, 20 but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood. 21 For from ancient times Moses has had in city after city those who preach him, because he is read aloud in the synagogues on every sabbath. ”

    The words of Moses that were read in Synagogues every Sabbath is the passage from Lev 17:1 to 18:27. Leviticus 17 and 18 has the same four requirements, listed in the exact order as that given in Acts 15. These were the compulsory rules for both Israelites and foreigners living in ancient Israel. This is why these four items meant so much to the Judaizers. Hence the Apostles felt abstinence was necessary in order to prevent stumbling within the surrounding Jewish congregations.

    Paul specifically states that there is nothing wrong with eating food sacrificed to idols. Paul explains that this prohibition was in order to not stumble others. This was an issue in congregations that were having trouble between Judaizers and Gentiles. The same principal can apply to blood.

    Even though the decree at Acts 15 says to abstain from eating food sacrificed to idols Paul makes clear that there is nothing wrong with this practice. He said it was only wrong when it stumbled the brothers, in this case the Judaizers. Acts 15 included food sacrificed to idols, blood and animals strangled because they caused stumbling in the mixed congregations due to their being read “in the Synagogue on every Sabbath”, not because they are offensive to God. This became less of an issue after the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D. and holds no relevance in our era.

    Abstaining from blood is never mentioned in any other context in the New Testament. It is never discussed as a reason to shun a brother. Paul does not mention eating blood at 1 Corinthians 5 as a reason to ‘quit mixing’ with a brother, neither does John mention it. In Revelation 21:8 and 1 Corinthians 6 blood is not said to be a reason for not inheriting God’s Kingdom. If avoiding blood was a key requirement of God it would be mentioned alongside sins such as fornication, murder and idolatry that are repeatedly condemned in the New Testament.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    The reasoning originally given for why blood transfusions were banned was that it was thought to be a nutrient in the same way that food is.

    Watchtower 1958 September 15 p.575

    “Each time the prohibition of blood is mentioned in the Scriptures it is in connection with taking it as food, and so it is as a nutrient that we are concerned with in its being forbidden.”

    Blood is not a nutrient, blood transfusions do not nourish the body and this is not the reason a patient is given a transfusion. Blood is used as a volume expander and to carry oxygen. The Watchtower now understands this and no longer uses this incorrect reasoning. However, rather than change the prohibition on blood a new line of reasoning started to be used.

    To link blood transfusions with eating blood the Watchtower now uses the following illustration.

    Reasoning from the Scriptures p.73;

    "Consider a man who is told by his doctor that he must abstain from alcohol. Would he be obedient if he quit drinking alcohol but had it put directly into his veins?"

    Medical professionals find this argument incorrect as well. When a person ingests alcohol orally the alcohol is absorbed as alcohol into the bloodstream. The alcohol is not broken down by the stomach and for this reason it is the same as injecting it directly. On the other hand, orally eaten blood when digested does not enter the circulation as blood, but is broken down into simple components. When blood is introduced directly into the veins as a transfusion it circulates and functions as blood, not as nutrition. A blood transfusion is actually a cellular organ transplant and organ transplants are permitted by the Watchtower Society. To show how irrelevant the illustration is consider it when put another way;

    "Consider a man who is told by his doctor that he must abstain from meat. Would he be obedient if he quit eating meat but accepted a kidney transplant?" (Source http://www.ajwrb.org/history/index.shtml)

    CONCLUSION: Jehovah’s Witnesses are able to have blood taken and stored for blood tests. Vaccines that are cultivated in stored blood are allowed. Many types of blood fractions are allowed. Medical treatments derived from large quantities of stored blood are also permitted. They do not pour it on the ground, as they should if following the LAW. The prohibition to Noah was to bleeding killed animals. The prohibition to Christians was to avoid stumbling Jewish converts. It was temporary, it ended with the destruction of the Temple.

    Sorry for the broken threads, I couldn't get it in all at once. Comments? Did any of you have issue with blood, need to re-educate yourself?

  • mavie
    mavie

    great research, i need to let this settle for a bit.

  • Shazard
    Shazard

    I won't be able now to find exact scriptures but when read in OT you will notice that "not eating blood" and "bleeding" allways applies for one who actually kills the animal. Pouring blood on the ground is sign of respect of life. It is like giving the life of killed animal back to God. There are several scriptures where eating killed (by someone or something else) does not requires bleeding the dead animal. It is only warned that one becames uncleen for a day, actually not a big issue eating unbled animal if you are not one who kills. Also there is permission to sell such a meat to gentiles! And more funny is one place where David asks for water, soldgiers fight trough enemies lines to acquire the water and latter David recognizing his stupid request (risking lifes of his soldgiers for water) pours out the water on ground stating that he can't dring blood of soldgiers.

  • jgnat
    jgnat
    Shazard: respect of life

    This is the key. A doctrine is misapplied if it in any way risks the life of the believer or anyone else. People are not to treat the gift of life shabbily.

  • Doubting Bro
    Doubting Bro

    I read that piece on JW facts and that is probably the most well written piece on the blood doctrine that I've ever seen. It's especially helpful to me since it comes from a JW point of view.

    Outstanding job, JW Facts!! I'm in the process of reading the rest of the site. The reasoning is outstanding. Thank you for taking the time to put this together.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    Shazard, you wrote: "Also there is permission to sell such a (bloody) meat to gentiles!"
    "Compared with the anointed remnant of spiritual Israelites, all those of that 'great crowd' would, figuratively speaking, be Gentiles." Man's Salvation Out Of World Distress At Hand, WTB&TS 1975 p. 201 - 202

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