In Ireland, JW's may sue over blood transfusion

by Kenneson 40 Replies latest watchtower medical

  • sspo
    sspo
    Ewen Watt, a member of the Watch Tower organisation for Jehovah`s Witnesses in Ireland, said blood transfusions were a matter for individuals.

    "That is a personal decision for each individual Christian to make. Each one of the Jehovah`s Witnesses would have to make a decision with regard to that," he said.

    How in the world can it be a personal decision when you have a gun pointed at your head by the elders that if you do decide to take blood, you will be taken in the back room and be dealt with.

    It's their decision that will be upheld if you make a decision they don't like.

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard
    Jehovah's Witnesses seek to join mother in hospital case
    Evening Echo, Ireland - 30 minutes ago
    ... Adrian Lawlor and Arthur Matthews, of Watchtower – a company representing Jehovah’s Witnesses in Ireland – are seeking to be joined with Ms K in her ...
    Jehovah's Witnesses seek to join mother in hospital case
    Irish Examiner, Ireland - 1 hour ago
    ... Adrian Lawlor and Arthur Matthews, of Watchtower – a company representing Jehovah’s Witnesses in Ireland – are seeking to be joined with Ms K in her ...
    Jehovah's Witnesses seek to join mother in hospital case
    Ireland Online, Ireland - 1 hour ago
    ... Adrian Lawlor and Arthur Matthews, of Watchtower – a company representing Jehovah’s Witnesses in Ireland – are seeking to be joined with Ms K in her ...
    Jehovah's Witnesses seek to join mother in hospital case
    BreakingNews.ie, Ireland - 1 hour ago
    ... Adrian Lawlor and Arthur Matthews, of Watchtower – a company representing Jehovah’s Witnesses in Ireland – are seeking to be joined with Ms K in her ...

    23/10/2006 - 7:24:59 PM

    Jehovah's Witnesses seek to join mother in hospital case

    More Jehovah’s Witnesses are booked in to give birth at a hospital that controversially gave a pregnant woman a blood transfusion against her will, the High Court heard today.

    A barrister representing the religion’s leaders in Ireland said there was a list of women concerned about giving birth at Dublin’s Coombe Hospital after it went to the courts to get an order compelling a woman to undergo a transfusion.

    The 23-year-old Jehovah’s Witness known as Ms K, from the Democratic Republic of Congo, suffered a massive haemorrhage and lost up to 80% of her blood after giving birth on September 21.

    Although she refused a blood transfusion – because of her beliefs – the hospital successfully sought a court order compelling her to do so, arguing she would die otherwise.

    Adrian Lawlor and Arthur Matthews, of Watchtower – a company representing Jehovah’s Witnesses in Ireland – are seeking to be joined with Ms K in her action against the hospital following the procedure.
    Junior counsel for the pair, Simon Mills, told the High Court he had a list of women, co-religionists of his clients, who were booked into the Coombe to give birth.

    He argued the case was not just Ms ’ but about more than 5,000 of her congregation in Ireland, and as such the religion should be represented in the court action. The case was so extraordinary and far-reaching that it merited the unusual step of allowing the religious leaders to be joined with Ms K in the action, he said.

    However, Gerard Hogan SC, for the hospital, said there was no precedent for such an action and accused the religion of trying to “jump into the shoes” of Ms K to further its own cause.


    Both men had an interest in the outcome of the case, as Jehovah’s Witnesses, but he added: “That is very different from saying they have an interest in the legal sense of the term.”

    He objected to the application, comparing it to allowing political parties, trade unions or other groups becoming party to a court action simply because they had a special interest in the outcome.

    In any event, he said, there was no suggestion Ms K could not defend her case “adequately and vigorously” on her own, aided by Watchtower as she wished.

    The Attorney General said he was “neutral” on the case. Mr Justice Frank Clarke reserved judgement on the application.

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard
    However, Gerard Hogan SC, for the hospital, said there was no precedent for such an action and accused the religion of trying to “jump into the shoes” of Ms K to further its own cause.

    Judge postpones decision on Jehovah's Witness application
    Irish Independent, Ireland - 23 minutes ago
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    Judge postpones decision on Jehovah's Witness application
    Drogheda Independent, Ireland - 33 minutes ago
    A High Court judge has postponed his decision on whether he will allow the Jehovah's Witness Congregation to be joined to legal proceedings arising out of the ...
    Judge postpones decision on Jehovah's Witness application
    Tuam Herald, Ireland - 34 minutes ago
    A High Court judge has postponed his decision on whether he will allow the Jehovah's Witness Congregation to be joined to legal proceedings arising out of the ...
  • badboy
    badboy

    THIS,EVERYONE GOT TO SEE!

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    I can't imagine them making an issue out of this. Maybe some individuals will want to sue, but the WTS, as a legal body, wouldn't want the negative publicity or the international attention.

    I just don't see this happening.

  • valkyrie
    valkyrie

    Someone might consider pointing out to the judge that since the Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses no longer consider the acceptance of blood transfusions by a member as a disfellowshiping offense[backed up by official WTS press releases], they can hardly be said to have a direct interest in the prosecution of this suit. By their own words, such a stance (whether or not to accept a blood transfusion) is a purely personal matter of conscience for the individual JW. The woman alone has had her personal rights violated.

    -V

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses denied part in Ms K case
    Offaly Independent, Ireland - 11 minutes ago
    The High Court has rejected an application by the congregation of Jehovah's witnesses here to be part of legal proceeding arising out of one of its members...

  • Gill
    Gill

    Thanks Danny. Nice to see common sense start to rule!

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses denied part in Ms K case
    Belfast Telegraph, United Kingdom - 18 minutes ago
    The High Court has rejected an application by the congregation of Jehovah's witnesses here to be part of legal proceeding arising out of one of its members ... Thursday, December 07, 2006 The High Court has rejected an application by the congregation of Jehovah's witnesses here to be part of legal proceeding arising out of one of its members being forced by the court to have a blood transfusion. The action is being taken against Ms K, a 23 year old Congolese woman by the Coombe Hospital because she refused to take blood having haemorrhaged after giving birth. The congregation had sought to be joined citing the right to freedom of religion and bodily integrity. But Mr Justice Frank Clarke dismissed this saying the congregation had not established that it had a direct interest to be joined as a party.

  • moshe
    moshe

    When my wife delivered our second child, Benjamin, she suffered a severe blood loss. Fortunately they were able to stop it, but she was left weak and needed lots of help for a month. I had made up my mind that , if she went unconsious I would agree to blood for her. I wasn't going to let our son lose his mother, it just didn't seem right. That was 1980 and by 1988 I was out of the JW's. Once you make that mental break with the Org rules it all changes.

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