I believe that quote is from the PATYATF
http://www.silentlambs.org/howtwowitwork.htm
the "secret" book
this site has some personal stories of how they were affected
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness7.htm
Another personal story from : http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1083328831112 (a completely neutral towards WT org i'm sure :)
"Internal church documents that reflect the discipline taken against Kelley have become the subject of a hotly contested discovery battle in Amy B.'s civil suit. Norris believes these will support her client's claim of negligence against the congregations and vicarious liability against the higher church authority.
If church practice is any indication, she may have her proof.
After a Jehovah's Witness is accused of child abuse, "a judicial committee of three elders meets to consider the accusation," says Watchtower Society associate general counsel Mario F. Moreno who also is an elder. "According to scripture [Deuteronomy 19:15], for a person to be disciplined, there needs to be at least two witnesses to substantiate the charge or an admission of sin."
"I don't know many perpetrators who come with their own witness in tow," deadpans Norris. "And if they don't have a second witness and the perpetrator denies the accusation, from a disciplinary standpoint, that's the end of it." They are allowed unsupervised access to children, she contends, and are free to molest again.
If the perpetrator admits the sin and claims he is repentant, he will be "reproofed" -- placed on religious restriction during which he is prevented from taking a lead role in church matters, Moreno says. Although the congregation may announce that someone has been reproofed, he adds, "it won't tell who, and it won't tell why."
Again, an abuser is allowed to remain in the church, claims Norris, while the rest of the laity remains ignorant and unprotected."
Well, here's hoping he sticks to his word and doesn't adhere to an organization that abides by such odious rules
UPDATE ON MY VISIT TO MY DAUGHTERS..........
by vitty 15 Replies latest jw friends
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just for emphasis
general counsil Mario F. Moreno
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vitty
bttt
"When any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for himand the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with elders also there. If during that meeting the accused still denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time."
This what im looking for.
God this board is so busy.......................posts get lost very quickly
smellsgood
I looked on silent lambs....I must say I couldnt find what i was looking for, there is so much information on there.
I just need to know if its a letter or WT
Thanks
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avengers
It is taken out of the "Flock" book.
Let me look it up and I'll get back to you.
Andy
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vitty
Thanks avengers
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avengers
hey Vitty.
I just put the "Flock" book on line.
Here's the link to the whole book.
Feel free to download it and and show it to the whole world.
Andy