Manitoba Jehovah's Witness teen says she was scared by forced transfusion

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  • Nosferatu
    Nosferatu


    Apparently, this is on CTV news tonight. I'll give an update after I watch it...

    http://www.news1130.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n090780A

    Manitoba Jehovah's Witness teen says she was scared by forced transfusion

    7, 2006 - 4:43 pm

    By: MICHELLE MACAFEE

    She told Broadcast News she's grateful her church and family were understanding of her situation.

    WINNIPEG (CP) - A 15-year-old Jehovah's Witness with Crohn's disease says she was overwhelmed and scared when she was given a blood transfusion last spring against her will.

    The girl, who can't be identified, was in Manitoba Court of Appeal with her parents Thursday to fight an order that gave Child and Family Services the power to force her to have a transfusion they deemed medically necessary.

    Jehovah's Witnesses oppose transfusions because they interpret certain passages of the Bible as forbidding the ingestion of blood.

    "Really, I try to forget about it," the girl told The Canadian Press in an interview following the court hearing.

    "It really frightened me to see that there's something wrong with our system. I was overwhelmed with what happened."

    She said she felt helpless to refuse the transfusion, knowing that another patient in a similar situation had been put in restraints.

    But she wants to fight the order to make sure she - and others - won't have to go through the same situation again.

    The Grade 11 student was diagnosed last year with Crohn's, a chronic illness that can affect the gastrointestinal tract.

    She says she was bleeding quite a bit when she was admitted to hospital in April with a flare-up, but insists the transfusion did little to help her - although her symptoms subsided.

    When she refused treatment, Child and Family Services obtained a court order allowing doctors to give blood transfusions or blood products "as they deem medically necessary" without the consent of the teen or her parents.

    Dressed in a stylish beige suit, the girl followed Thursday's court proceedings closely, reading along with the lawyer's book of submissions to the justices.

    Much of the arguments centred around whether the girl should have been allowed to make her own treatment decisions as a "mature minor."

    Lawyer Shane Brady, who represented the girl's parents, argued she should be treated as a mature minor under the law because she understands her illness and why she is refusing transfusions.

    Justice Freda Steel asked Brady why this situation is different than other examples of age limits imposed on people, such as not being able to get a driver's licence until the age of 16.

    He replied that patients must be looked at individually in medical cases, regardless of age and questions of human dignity should not be resolved by setting an arbitrary age cut-off.

    "She has been denied the right to decide what happens to her body - that's a fundamental right," said Brady. "Deciding when to drive a car is not a fundamental right."

    He added the Child and Family Services Act is meant to protect those who are incapable of looking after themselves - not interfere with a capable person's decision.

    Lawyer Michael Thomson, representing Child and Family Services, said in urgent cases such as the girl's, a line has to be drawn quickly to determine when someone is capable - and sometimes the yardstick is age.

    Determining capacity is complex and time consuming, he added.

    A lawyer for Manitoba's Attorney General added distinctions must be made between decisions such as whether a minor can pierce their ears, or have a broken arm put in a cast, and a blood transfusion.

    Deborah Carlson said the court's responsibility is to conduct "a balancing exercise that depends on the circumstance of the case . . . and uses the test of what's in her best interest."

    The justices reserved their decision.

    The girl said she has come to terms with the fact she went against her church's teaching because everyone understands she didn't have the transfusion willingly.

    "I had the support of all my friends and my peers knew I refused it and it wasn't my fault I got the transfusion," said the teen. "They weren't shunning me or anything."

    She said she takes further comfort in her Bible readings.

    "God really cares for me and he knows what happened, but he forgives me."

  • Twitch
    Twitch

    I watched this program just now. They have an online poll.

    Do you think the courts have the right to impose blood transfusion or other medical treatments on a child?

    http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/specials/

  • Gill
    Gill

    As much as I completely disagree with the WTBTS policy on blood, and see this young girl as a victim of their cult, you can't ignore the fact that she has very real bars imposed on her mind. She 'cannot' accept blood. She has refused it! Whatever her reason for refusing, good or bad it is always wrong to force anything onto another human being who has clearly said, and is still saying in this case, NO!

    The money spent by the state on these court cases would be better spent on some form of anti cult education.

    The child said 'No!' and 'No' it should be.

  • Caedes
    Caedes

    I am thankful that I was never put in that situation, I don't know if I would have bowed to my parents pressure to refuse a blood transfusion. I suppose it would have depended on how old I was. What I have no doubt about though, is that if I had bowed to that pressure I would easily have been able to convince other people that it was 'my' informed decision.

    I don't think any child bought up as a witness is capable of making an informed decision regarding blood transfusions since they are only informed of the witness party line on the subject as well as being subject to a great deal of pressure to conform.

    If it were up to me I would take this decision away from every dub parent for the simple reason that the vast majority of children raised by witnesses will leave the religion. I can't think of anything more ridiculous than martyring children for a cult that they will in all probability leave once they are old enough to leave home.

  • mama1119
    mama1119

    I had major surgery when I was 18 and was very adamant that I not recieve blood. I did however have some deep fears and wished I could have had it available just in case. Its really hard to say what my parents what have done (they were my POA) if I needed it. I dont think my Mom would have let me die. I hope the girl was well informed.

  • Fe2O3Girl
    Fe2O3Girl

    Yes, I am not surprised she was scared. After all, they are taught that a forced blood transfusion is equivalent to rape.

    I know that at that age I would have resisted blood transfusion to the death. And my parents would have let me die as long as it was in their hands.

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  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    NEW CANADIAN BLOOD DRAMA 15 Y.O. GIRL companion thread from 2 months ago

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    DannyHaszard

    A 15-year-old Winnipeg girl returned to a Manitoba courtroom Thursday to fight a court order that allowed doctors to give her blood transfusions against her wishes.

    The main issue is whether the young Jehovah's Witness should be considered a "mature minor" or be put under the wing of Child and Family Services and be forced to have the treatment when doctors deem it necessary.

    The case will resume on Friday.

    In April, the girl, who was then 14, went to a Winnipeg hospital with a flare-up of Crohn's disease. She and her parents refused to allow a blood transfusion.

    Most Jehovah's Witnesses interpret literally a passage in the Bible that forbids them from ingesting blood — which includes receiving blood transfusions — although some blood derivatives are allowed.

    Court order allowed treatment

    The province's Child and Family Services Department convinced the Court of Queen's Bench to issue an order allowing doctors to give blood transfusions or blood products "as they deem medically necessary."

    Whether the girl received the blood transfusions or not at that point was never made public. Her name cannot be published because the court case is a Child and Family Services matter.

    Crohn's disease is a chronic illness that affects the gastrointestinal tract from mouth to bowel. It has no known cure, but its symptoms can be relieved by drugs or surgery.

    Manitoba child welfare authorities said the treatment is necessary to help with the girl's Crohn's disease.

    "Well certainly, a family's beliefs about a particular situation are always considered and respected, but the ultimate decision really does rest with a judge," Linda Burnside, a spokeswoman for the province's child protection branch, said Wednesday.

    "The judge would also want to take into consideration a family's position on a particular matter, and the family has that legal right to be present in court to present their side, but ultimately it's a judge who makes the final decision."

    Constitutional rights to be argued

    Watchtower Bible and Tract Society lawyer Shane Brady, who is representing the girl in court, said his main issue is not freedom of religion, but the simple question of whether capable people, regardless of age, can make their own medical decisions without the government's intervention.

    Brady told CBC News on Wednesday he is fighting the court order on the basis that it violates the girl's constitutional rights and the province's own laws.

    Other cases in Canada have also pitted young, seriously ill Jehovah's Witnesses against provincial governments.

    A Calgary father tried to sue his former wife and the Watchtower Society of Canada after his 17-year-old daughter Bethany died of leukemia in 2002. Lawrence Hughes blamed the church for influencing Bethany to refuse blood transfusions, although she eventually received them when she was made a ward of the province.

    In August 2005, a B.C. Jehovah's Witness teen, identified only as Sarah, was successfully treated for her osteogenic sarcoma at a New York hospital that respected her wish to avoid blood transfusions. She was able to go to the New York hospital after the teenager and her parents reached an agreement with the B.C. government, and after she had lost two previous court battles to refuse the blood transfusions.

    No such case has reached the Supreme Court of Canada to date, since the provincial court decisions are usually made in medical emergencies and the results vary from province to province. The federal high court refused to hear Bethany Hughes's appeal several months before she died, but it gave no reason for its decision.

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    Comment from Danny Haszard-Both Randy Watters and myself have this same disease,i had major surgery and now have an ileostomy (colostomy bag) chronic and sudden catastrophic blood loss is a danger,this is just about the worst disease a JW can get.

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