To ThirdWitness re JW's and Child Molesters

by BroSun1 23 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Welcome aboard.

    That was one of the best descriptions I have ever read on the workings of the WTS policy. Most companies have a Poliy and Procedure manual that is used to descibe in detail how rules should be followed. I have written policy and procedure for one place I worked. If there is a complaint about staff's handling of a matter the manual can be referenced to see if the procedure was followed.

    The WTS does non of this. So much is spoken and never written. Rules change so fast no one could possibly keep up with it all.



  • grey matters
    grey matters

    Welcome from a fellow newbie BroSun1.

    This doesn't surprise me, knowing that they knew for years that Russell got his math from the Second Adventists. They let us keep on believing it was Russell for as long as they could until someone else published that it wasn't!

  • Arthur

    BroSun1, Welcome to the board. It's nice to have you.

    I don't think that thirdwitness will spend any significant amount of time talking about this issue. It seems as though he is mainly interested in debating Watchtower chronology. AlanF, who has debated him extensively believes that he is a Bethel operative who's main objective is to tout the WTS's teachings regarding the 607 b.c.e date. Here is a link to AlanF's statements:

  • BroSun1

    Hi Lady Lee, grey matters and Arthur.

    Nice to meet you. Thanks for the link to AlanF's post re ThirdWitness.

    I must agree that the Watchtower Society is becoming more and more desperate as they are becoming increasingly exposed with the passing of time. There are many persons still in this Society who know what a sham it is. Some hang in there to preserve family ties, others just do not love truth enough or lack the courage to make the break.

  • lowden

    Welcome to the forum BroSun

    Masterly post!!

    There is simply no arguing with such lucid and incisive reasonings and ANYONE that tries to is just as evil and deluded as the WTS. Simply on the one count of their Non-Existent Child Abuse Policy, if you try to defend it or see reason in it you are either ill or wicked!!

    You're a top banana Bro Sun



  • wannaexit

    My dear BroSun1,

    WOW! what a post!!!

    So elequently said



  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    Outstanding post BroSun1. I'm very glad you are brought your intelligence and experience to bear on this issue.

    POLICIES: This is one area where the Watchtower Society can clearly confuse the rank and file. To the best of my knowledge there is no Policy Document that is available to ALL in the Congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses. How anyone can talk about the Watchtower Organization as having the BEST policies is beyond my comprehension.

    Excellent point. Surely Jehovah's Witnesses are not following God's example, for when he wanted the Israelites to follow a certain law, he made it very clear what they were and were not allowed to do. Not so with the Society, who try very hard to obfuscate. There can be only one logical reason to do so.

    What angered me about the talk was that the Society was telling the rank and file that they should not seek help from Psycho Therapists as these persons where demonized and may land up blaming the Society for the problems experienced by them.

    Now, if you asked me to show you this statement in any Watchtower writings I personally will not be able to do so. But this was clearly food coming from the Faithful and Discreet Slave, which I heard with my own ears. Why I was so annoyed is because at that same time I knew of Brothers in very important positions in Bethel whose wives were receiving treatment from Psychologists!

    This is something I've found somewhat frustrating in responding to Witnesses who become deliberately obtuse and refuse to acknowledge the reality that what is said from the platform is just as much a directive as anything found in the publications. Perhaps even moreso as they will many times get somewhat more explicit in their pronouncements (see talks regarding 1975 for example).

    This is also a fine point that is difficult to communicate to anyone who's never been a Witness. That there is a difference between what is said and what is written.

    Did the Watchtower in the past through its DO’s, CO’s and Elders tell persons not to report Child Abuse cases to the Authorities? I Truly believe this to be the case.

    Why else would they order elders to contact the Society first before even the police? I was told by a CO personally to "shut up" or I'd be disfellowshipped. That Witnesses refuse to accept that the Society does indeed order silence and tell elders not to report is insulting. Does it happen every single time? Of course not. But like most things in that sect, there is a conspiracy of silence with all orders given verbally so as to present plausible deniability.


  • sspo

    TO SF

    Hey those are nice pictures

    I can't beleive that these guys are in control of 6.5 million minds

  • earthtone

    Welcome BroSun

    loved the post.

  • BroSun1

    Hi earthtone, sspo, Big Tex, wannaexit, lowden

    Glad to meet you all.

Share this