Is It Possible That The Society REALLY Believes The "End" Will Soon Be Here

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  • Scully

    If they REALLY believed the "End" was Just Around The Cornerâ„¢, they wouldn't keep asking for money.

  • ICBehindtheCurtain

    If they really believed the 1975 Armaggedon date BS that Freddi F and the WTS was spewing since the late 60's they wouldn't have purchased that California property from Bob Hope in 1974 which cost a pretty penny. What did they need a real estate investment for if they believed that soon Jehoover was going to give them the whole planet? NOPE THEY DON'T BELIEVE THIS BS, they just feed it to the R&F who will eat it up joyously.


  • Gary1914

    I think that only the oldest of them actually believes it. However, most of these men are the equivalent of corporate executives who will say and do whatever is necessary to effectuate a growth of their corporation. Sadly, however, I do believe that many average Witnesses are convinced that the end is coming any day now. There is a sucker born every minute!

  • Quandry

    What property did they buy from Bob Hope in 1974? Where is it? Do they still have it? One of the things that started my spiral to "Out of the W.T. Control" was that my family was visiting friends in California and they said that if we had more time they'd like to show us the property Rutherford bought for the resurrected princes.

  • ozziepost

    I think it's something they like to proclaim but when "the rubber hits the road" they don't know if they really want it.

    Or they haven't thought it all through as to what are the ramifications of what they've been teaching.

  • Stephanus

    Whether they believe it or not, the end may be coming for the WBTS, at least in its present form. It's bleeding members and cashflow in increasing numbers and amounts; no org can survive like that for long. The Org will either implode or reform - there aren't too many other options at this stage of its existence.

  • garybuss

    The Society behaves as if they do not believe that which they teach.
    The Society requires their followers to behave as if they do believe that which the Society teaches even though the Society behaves as if they do not believe that which they teach.

  • Warlock


    It took me over 20 years to see that.


  • blondie
    blondie,1413,200~20950~2419813,00.html Chalk Hill landmark sold for condos

    By Gregory J. Wilcox
    Staff Writer

    WOODLAND HILLS -- A decades-old San Fernando Valley landmark once owned by the late Bob Hope has been sold to a residential development partnership for $25 million, officials said Wednesday. It's the first time the 8.3-acre parcel, on what is known as Chalk Hill, has changed hands since the Jehovah's Witnesses bought it from Hope in 1974.

    The new owners, Troxler Residential Ventures XXVI and D2 Development Inc., plan a multifamily community on the site. The hillside parcel, at 20600 Ventura Blvd., is adjacent to an upscale apartment complex and across the street from a new auto dealership and a housing development for the elderly that is in the midst of construction.

    John Battle, a principal at Lee & Associates-LA North/Ventura Inc., who represented both parties, said the deal wraps up the future of a last big chunk of land along the boulevard, a main artery of commerce and entertainment, in the south Valley.

    "Ventura Boulevard is pretty much impacted. It's pretty much done," said Battle, whose partner, Craig Stevens, also worked on the deal.

    Battle said the listing never hit the market. The church had formed a committee to explore the property's sale, and he heard about it from a client, then matched Troxler/D2 Development with the committee.

    "At the time, they were close to going with another buyer, so we jumped in pretty quick and basically gave them what they asked for," Battle said.

    Neither a church committee member nor officials at D2 returned calls seeking comment.

    But Gordon Murley, vice chairman of the Woodland Hills Warner Center Neighborhood Council and president of the Woodland Hills Homeowners Organization, said the developer indicated that plans call for a condominium project of several hundred units with a commercial component.

    Troxler/D2 pulled out of a meeting with neighborhood residents last month, he said.

    The two groups are still waiting for a presentation from the developer.

    "Our initial take on it was that it is awfully dense, and we're not quite sure how they are going to handle the amount of traffic that's going to be generated," Murley said.

    The site was developed in 1958 as the Valley Music Theater in the Round and hosted numerous concerts and stage productions over the years. In the late 1960s, business fell off, in part because the facility's configuration limited the type of plays that could be put on, and the church eventually took it over.

    The Jehovah's Witnesses used it for special gatherings of multiple congregations but outgrew the facility.

    A search of public records shows that The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society paid $1,250,000 for the property.

    (Posted by Nathan Natas on another DB)

  • JH

    OK, the earth is warming must be the end....

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