For what reason is the truth hidden from us?

by OpenFireGlass 22 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • cyberguy
    cyberguy

    Judas I.

    One thing you have to remember is that the WT-approach to the Bible is one where there is hidden meaning in almost everything. In their view, the Bible has secretly encoded messages, and one cannot (in their view) understand these deeper things without their deciphering analysis; their claim is that God is using them, and only them, to decrypt these hidden messages. One cannot simply read the Bible and draw simple conclusions, but are directed to hyper-analyze every thought and concept, turning the helpless subject into a mental contortionist.

    As an example, try and follow the lengthy chain of scriptures from all over the Bible, to support their 1914 teaching. I doubt that very many JW’s are able to explain this centerpiece-doctrine without having WT literature directly in front of them. And even then, all they would be able to do is recite verbatim from the printed page.

    If you’ve been in the WT-Organization for any length of time, your head must be spinning with confusion once your eyes are opened to the great deception. Most JW’s that remain for any period of time, but have half-a-brain, ignore the glaring errors, immersing themselves in self-delusion, figuring that their “mommy” has super-secret information, because nobody would ever come to the WT-conclusions by just reading the Bible alone!

    In my journey out of the WT, I’ve started over again as regards everything I thought I knew about God and the Bible. And it is my belief that you too must purge every vestige of WT indoctrination before remaking yourself. You might want to get some books on deprogramming.

    Cyber

  • Judas I.
    Judas I.

    I'm trying.

  • wanderlustguy
    wanderlustguy
    Can someone explain WHY the truth must be hidden from me and people wanting it as well?

    Why must the truth be hidden from us?

    The truth is not hidden, it is right in front of you and everyone else every day you wake up. You have to choose to see it and realize that sometimes the answer is so simple it defies all you know. What does a bird do to glorify God, assuming that is the purpose for all of God's creatures. Can you even name "God" or is it to narrow of a view for the creator of all things? Why does "God" have to be male? Why is a male connotation respectful and a female "God" disrespectful? All of this is because of the way we were taught to think, which works for most of our lives because we deal in absolutes and opposites. good and evil, right and wrong. The truth is that everything is the way it is supposed to be, and there isn't a person who cares whether you go to a strip club or church on Sunday, that's the hard part to come to grips with. You are a sum total of your experiences and choices made due to them, that is the truth, you hold your own destiny. It's a tough pill to swallow, much less teach to others.

  • Shazard
    Shazard

    - I am - human told
    - This fact - Reality answered - does not create responsibility in me

  • Jake99
    Jake99

    The truth is hidden in plain site with the intention that only one man really knows what it says and is. That man is the Messiah for only he knows the language that Jesus spoke. Billions of people say they understand the bible and yet none of them really do what it says. If you are to treat your neighbor as you would yourself then why are there more than one bank and why does it cost more for the same product in different stores? I don't need complications I need simplicity and I am the only man who can lead this world from the darkness and into the light.

  • jstalin
    jstalin

    Please see my previous post on what I call the Inefficient God hypothesis:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/103055/1.ashx

  • OpenFireGlass
    OpenFireGlass

    Can someone explain WHY the truth must be hidden from me and people wanting it as well?

    Why must the truth be hidden from us?

    Or in othe words.... why does god(if there is one) pick and choose who to bestow his/her/it's holy spirit upon to understand the bible, if we are all his/her/it's children and he/she/it loves us all?

    Is this god character an equal opportunity employer?

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan
    Can someone explain WHY the truth must be hidden from me and people wanting it as well?

    Why must the truth be hidden from us?

    How would this particular truth knowledge benefit you ?

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    "Truth?? You can't take the truth!!!"

    LT, of the "quotation smartass" class

  • cyberguy
    cyberguy


    What Leloaia is basically saying (my 2-cents, and she is beyond my writing/reading skill too at times, she’s awesome!) is that people read into the text of the Bible what isn’t there. The WT is notorious for this! So are a lot of other Christian, religious groups! And the simple message, no matter how unscientific or primitive it is, is not understood or believed, because people try and read into the scriptures what isn’t there, to make it fit preconceived ideas!

    What I’ve learned recently is that the Bible is an entirely different book or collection of books/letters from what I was taught to believe while in Witnessdom! The Bible writers themselves, especially those that wrote the so-called, Christian Greek Scriptures, wrote these books/letters long after the events that they describe! And Gospels, like Luke, frankly say that the information contained was gathered from what others have said, and thus were not inspired (please read Luke chapter 1). Even books like Romans, although possibly penned by Paul initially, were rewritten by more astute Greek-writers, possibly Luke (Paul’s Greek was simply terrible at best). At least I can see this now!

    Consider the book of Genesis, as another example. There’s nothing there that says regarding the creation event “this is what God says…” “God told me that this is what happened...” No, this isn’t what is presented. The Jewish Priests simply wrote what they thought happened, based, no doubt on secular history from the area they lived in, based on what was then known. There is no indication that God told them what to write, or "inspired" them!

    My 2-cents, from a humbler person than what I was as a JW!

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