144000 does it make sense?

by scrubmaster 11 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  LittleToe

  ~tousles Nic's hair~

  Naww ya don't ya ole royster doyster
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  Honesty

  Even the WATCHTOWER™ admits it is a farce on their part to promote it as evidenced in one of their numerous books. Auld Soul came to an interesting deduction about the 144,000 and the 'other sheep' doctrine that makes so much sense when viewed from the outside looking into the cult of Jehovah's Witnesses :

  "WORLDWIDE SECURITY UNDER THE PRINCE OF PEACE"
  chap. 1 pp. 9-12 pars. 14-20 The Desire for Peace and Security Worldwide
  14 With painful hurt to themselves, most of mankind do not desire to accept or to believe in the Almighty God’s provision for his worshipers to enjoy relative peace and security even in this most lamentable state of human affairs. However, Jehovah is “the God who gives peace,” and it is our blessed privilege now to enter into a peace and security that will never fail. (Romans 16:20; Philippians 4:6, 7, 9) It is a peace and security that he gives even now to his body of earthly servants, his visible organization, in fulfillment of his ever-reliable promises. It is a peace and security that we can enjoy only in association with his visible organization on earth.15 It would be out of line with the plain teachings of the Scriptures to believe that God does not have an organization, an organized people, that he exclusively recognizes. Jesus Christ recognized that his heavenly Father had a visible organization. Until Pentecost 33 C.E., it was the Jewish organization in covenant relationship with Jehovah God under the Law of Moses.—Luke 16:16.
  16 Just as the ancient nation of Israel was in a covenant relationship with Jehovah God through the mediator Moses, so the nation of spiritual Israel, “the Israel of God,” has a covenant relationship through a mediator. (Galatians 6:16) It is as the apostle Paul wrote to his Christian fellow worker: “There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5) Was Moses the mediator between Jehovah God and mankind in general? No, he was the mediator between the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and the nation of their fleshly descendants. Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members. This spiritual nation is like a little flock of Jehovah’s sheeplike ones.—Romans 9:6; Revelation 7:4.

  Here is the portion I have the most problem with:
  Was Moses the mediator between Jehovah God and mankind in general? No, he was the mediator between the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and the nation of their fleshly descendants.
  This is a lie. Outright contradiction against the Scriptures. This is why:(1) Moses brought out of Egypt the Israelites and a vast mixed company of non-Israelites. He was the mediator also for these. These also agreed to serve God. These also gave sacrifices and were bound to the law of Moses. They WERE NOT fleshly descendants of Abraham, nor were they alien residents in the Land of Promise.
  (2) Proselytes were welcome, and for anyone who was willing to agree to the covenant of the Mosaic Law—and in the case of males, undergo circumcision—Moses became the mediator between God and man.

  You know Moses was the mediator for anyone who wished to come into that favored relationship. But the doctrine of "other sheep" who have a different hope requires this lie. The doctrine of "other sheep" requires a different shepherd than Jesus, another "go-between," another mediator. If Jesus is not your mediator, who is? If someone else is your mediator, how is it that you have been listening to the voice of the owner? (John 10:1-21)

  You have been deceived. You have listened to the voice of strangers. You have followed after some who wish to break in and steal you away. You have only one mediator, I hope you wake up. Currently, you are told that your King and High Priest is unapproachable in prayer. (Hebrews 5:1-14) Currently, you are cut off from the one to whom God gave all authority in heaven and on earth. (Matthew 28:18) And you let it happen. What's more, you actively promote such an empty relationship about the one you claim to believe saved you.

  Thankyou, Auld Soul for helping me be set free from the blasphemy of the WATCHTOWER™ cult of lies and deception.