by MadamDefiance 17 Replies latest watchtower bible
Welcome to the Board MD! There are many who can relate to your experience of non JW relatives being given a JW funeral that there is no question but that they would have loathed.
i can relate to your experience of being shunned at the funeral - I was at the funeral of my non JW granddad. And I just know he would have welcomed me had he been alive!
Dear Madamedefiance,
WELCOME!! And I am VERY sorry about the loss of youur Grandmother. This story seems all to familiar to me. My Grandfather died last year too. He was not considered a witness 99% of the time by my Grandmother, and 100% of the time by the congregation. He had faded years and years ago (40 at least). Numerous times my Grandmother sought help by the Elders, wether she should leave him or stay becauase he many times made it very hard on her to remain a witness. They advised her to stay (thank goodness). He did not feel it was necessary to preach or go to the meetings etc. And was very verbal with others about it. Well when he died, my Grandmother had the memorial talk at the hall! He wasn't a witness either! And on top of that the speaker (one who actually was present at the Elders meetings about my Grandfather) talked and talked about the hope my Grandfather had. He gave less that 5 min. on his actual life of my Grandfather. He just read the obituary. That was it!! The rest was spent "preaching" at everyone in the audience, mainly looking at the family. To make matters worse, no one would hardly say two word to any of the family. As they have all either faded, or disassociated themselves, or never were witnesses. Afterwards many, of my family members just cried with disgust. My cousin said," That was not a memorial for Grandpa!! That was a preaching serman!!" We too have very bitter feelings about that so called "memorial!" There was so much that could have been said to really be of comfort. His personality, old stories, the things he liked and the way he lived. Anyhow, I feel your anger! And again, WELCOME!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
MD your grandmom was probably a far more righteous person thanmany JW's.
Probably more like it
Thanks everyone, I am glad to be here. My granny funeral was two yrs ago. She was high spirited and detested JW's robots.
Yeah same here, the elder giving the talk only read granny's name and her surviving chilren. But totally ignored all twelve gran-children.
The elder did not aknowlege granny's life as a human on the earth at all. The only thing the elder kept saying was Death by Destruction in the great battle predicted as foreseen in 1914, blah, blah, blah............................After the funeral was over my uncle (non-JW) walked up the the Elder and said "You're Fired! Get Out!!!" My mom a current brainwashed JW ran to the aid of the elder, but he left anyway. The rest of the (non-Jw) family apointed themselves pallbearers starting taking granny's casket out side to the nearby open grave. And my little brother(17yrs old JW) began helping these pallbearers escort the casket. My mom ran over to my younger brother like a raveing chicken " stop put that down , Stop it now,
let them take her out!" I really did not understand that one. So I asked mom why can't he help? She stood there ignoring my question as she instantly regained her composure (fixing her top and patting her face with a tissue)............I thought to myself you were talking to me before the funeral , telling me to listen to bro. So&So's talk, the end is near and the doors will be closed just as soon as the Faultful & Deceitful Slave gives the warning from the Gelopy Boss. She kept warning THE TIME Is Now you need to come back and say you are sorry for your lusty teenage puppy love situation. I replied no, when is your husband going to announce he is sorry for molesting me!............................................I later told her in a letter I am an ordained minister of the Light, I counsel my self and others. I have my mental facilities in tact. I believe God Is right inside me...Why can't you get answers for yourself?????????..............She has never responded.
MD - it sounds like Granny's highspiritedness skipped a generation and landed on you! Well done for challenging your mother - do you get shunned by your little brother?
Yes crumpet. Since I wrote mom the letter my mother , brother and sister are still practicing witnesses have wrote me off. I even called my sister and asked her for the money she owed me only because I needed it at the time, instead of paying me back she said 'I told you not to tell mom you were a minister and conselor, now I can't even ask you if my husband is cheating, Click she hung up... See my sister knew and she used to call me with her problems but she will never own up to that...........But now she is shunning me too.
Well for what its worth it sounds as if your sister will be missing out on your relationship more than you!
What ?these assholes have the nerves to try and take control of a non-witness funeral.these assholes are almost as bad as the Scientologists.
