should I disassociate myself or wait to get disfellowshipped?

by Mrs.Congeniality 41 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Mrs.Congeniality
    Mrs.Congeniality

    WELL I TOLD EVERYONE I WOULD KEEP THEM UPDATED. HERE IS THE LATEST NEWS. AN ELDER CALLED AND THEY WANT TO MEET WITH MY FRIENDS TOMARROW NIGHT. KEEP IN MIND THAT NO ONE HAS STOPPED BY OR CALL THEM IN MONTHS. THE ELDER SAID THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH THEM BECAUSE IT APPERENTLY HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ELDERS ATTENTION THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THINGS AGAINST THE ORG. RULES. WHAT EVER THAT MAY BE. THE ELDER SAID HE COULD NOT GO INTO WHAT IT WAS THEY WANTED TO SPEAK TO THEM ABOUT BUT HE JUST COULDNT DO IT OVER THE PHONE. THEY HAVE TO MEET WITH A BODY OF ELDERS. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PUT THEMSELVES THROUGH THE MENTAL ABUSE. THEY HAVE DECIDED TO WRITE A DIS. LETTER. IF ANYONE HAS A GOOD LETTER THEY CAN TAKE NOTES FROM PLEASE SEND THEM OUR WAY. THANKS FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT YOU ALL OFFER.

    MRS.C

  • LuciousJ
    LuciousJ

    Hi Everyone- We are the "friends" that Miss Congeniality is talking about. This is my very first post on this site but I've been reading quite a few for months now. M.C. is correct in that we left in Dec. 2005. We were visited EVERY weekend by the elders and received numerous phone calls throughout the weeks before and following. It became so stressful that we were afraid to be home on Sundays so we'd go out to eat breakfast and do errands during the time they'd be in service. How's that for giving them control? Finally, I wrote a letter and told them that no more calls/visits would be necessary because we were most definitely not returning to that particular congregation. We gave only one reason....that it was 'personal'. We also made it clear that we were in no way dissassociating ourselves from the Organization. We've heard absolutely not one word since I wrote that letter which was on April 11th. Saturday, (July 29th) we get a phone call from an elder. We don't answer, he doesnt' leave a message. My husband says "maybe he dialed the wrong number'....LMAO....he's so in denial! Anyway, Sunday, again another phone call while we were out. No message. So, my hubby calls and leaves him a message and tells him to feel free to call us again. And low & behold, he does. He proceeds to ask if we will come in tonight (Monday) to the KH and meet with the elders. My hubby asks him why. He says that all he can tell us is that there have been allegations about us participating in activities that are against the "ORGANIZATION". Again, never said against what JEHOVAH teaches is right/wrong......it's what the FALSE ORGANIZATION has invented. So, my husband says he'll talk it over with me and we'll call him back. Well, both of us laughed a little but on the other hand were also nerve racked because when it all falls down, you realize, this is it. There's no ducking anymore. We have to make a decision once and for all. We figure writing a letter of diss. would be better than being DF'd. I've read all of your comments and it seems the majority consensus is the same. My favorite was "working for an unethical dishonest company." WOW, what a way to look at it. We both decided that putting it that way, we'd quit in a heartbeat! I guess that means we have made our decision. We are VERY tempted to take advice from SickofLies and post it right up on the door of the KH. AH, wouldn't that be fun? But, just to alleviate any further conflict, we better just mail it. :) Thank you ALL for your input. It has helped immensely!!!!! LuciousJ & JDawg

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    welcome!

    sorry they wouldnt just leave you alone. hopefuly though once you send your letter in they will.

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    Luscious, et al

    Good for you! Of course, if there was any fairness on their part they would read the DA letter to the congregation. Of course that will never happen. However, potentially all the elders will read it. Too bad more couldn't....... see....it... HOLD ON! I have heard of cases where those who are DA'ing stick a copy of their letter on all the windsheilds in the parking some night during the service meeting. Others have gone to the trouble of sending out copies in a general mailing to cong. members. I think this is a great idea!. It employs the very tactics the JWs use to get the word out.

    Now, I am writing this without knowing WHY you were in their crosshairs. If you've been arrested for bank robbery or child porn then I would feel differently than ehat I've said here. But, I give you the benefit of the doubt! Carry on, and best regards.

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    Sorry, I should have read more carefully. I see where this came up over disagreement with WT doctrine, the most noble of reasons to either be DF'd or to DA oneself!

    We XJW's need to come up with a Medal of Valor, Purple Heart, Oak Leaf cluster, and the ultimate, Jehovahs Witness Freedom Medal of Honor.

    I nominate you for the latter.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    The only reason I'd go to the Kingdom Hall at the requested time would be to get the license plate numbers of the cars parked there. If there were lots of cars there, I'd want a list of the elders on the jury, so I'd go in and get that list, then leave.
    The license plates are very useful to find owners. Just call the DMV and tell them there's an abandoned car and I'm trying to find the owner to ask him to move it. Here in SD they used to supply ownership information. Maybe that changed now . . . but I'd find em.
    The every next morning I'd personally sue each elder for any reason my attorney could think up. Then I'd make application for restraining orders.
    Next, I'd call the religion editor of the local daily newspaper and give them the best interview they ever got.
    I didn't go out with a bang, I went out with a explosion.
    I did all the above except sue em. I helped sponsor a public forum and invited the media and I invited elders I knew by registered mail. The media showed up, but the elders didn't.

  • LuciousJ
    LuciousJ

    Thanks. It's nice to know we do still have some support out there.

    The 'allegations' are 1 of 2 things- 1st we celebrated easter (it was the first thing we did since leaving in Dec.). The same night, we had a babysitter come over while we went out and while she was there, our kids spilled the beans about the baskets of candy, dying the eggs, etc. As you may already have concluded, our sitter was a witness. We never heard from her after that and she wouldn't return our calls. 2nd would be my daughter's b-day. We had a little party here at our house (out back) on a Saturday. I put a little Happy B-Day sign out front with her name on it and 2 balloons so the parents could find the house. I made sure I had it around 1:30 which would be well after service ended but since we have already had several "SPIRITUAL DRIVE BY'S" I'm sure someone spotted it anyway. Funny things is, that was July 3rd so why would they wait almost a month? I will say this. I am NOT sorry for either activity. I have NEVER seen my kids so happy lately. They are having the time of their lives and to us, it's priceless....even worth being DF'd!!!

    I really like the idea of putting the letters on all cars in the parking lot. WOW....what an AWAKEning thought! HA!

    Thanks again all-

    LuciousJ

  • serendipity
    serendipity

    Hi lusciousJ & welcome!

  • Lady Liberty
    Lady Liberty

    Dear Lucious and JDawg,

    WELCOME!!!I am so... glad you have finally joined the forum! They have a ajenda. You are guilty until proven innocent. Hang in there, it will be behind you soon! They are hot on our trail as well. Just remember you are not alone!! You will meet many new friends here who will be of tremendous support! We love you guys....

    Love,

    Lady Liberty

  • mama1119
    mama1119

    Lucious & JDawg,

    I am MC and Lady Liberty's buddy!!!! You know me Lucious...Anyway, you will feel SO much freer(is that a word) when it is all said and done. It may be a bit hard at first, but you, and more importantly, your children will benefit immensely from the freedom you will gain. No more phonecalls, drivebys, hiding out etc, its just done and you can be "normal"

    Good Luck and Welcome

    Mama

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