Is truth the end of philosophy? or the goal of philosophy?

by DavidChristopher 15 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • DavidChristopher

    Can you get too close to God?

    If truth is where philosophy ends...where does it begin?

    Any thoughts?

    off topic..but was also looking for a church to accept me in, and guarantee my forgiveness and salvation. I have 30 pieces of silver for the offering plate. Can someone find me a church that will accept me in?

    I asked a Catholic priest on (forums) and haven't heard anything since.

    (got banned today as now I am judasi on there.)

    How was your day?

  • jgnat

    Q. Is truth the end of philosophy?

    A. No. I don't believe truth is finite. How can an infinite string have an end.

    Q. Is the truth the goal of philosophy?

    A. No. I believe philosophy is simply a framework to help make order of our thoughts. If there's a goal, that means there is a destination. Philosophy does not end.

    Q. Can you get too close to God?

    A. Obviously. Getting too close can make your face burn.

    Q. off topic..but was also looking for a church to accept me in, and guarantee my forgiveness and salvation.

    A. Sure, all the evangelical churches will take you, no problem. They also have sure-fire guarantees. Their study program doesn't take six months.

  • jgnat

    Oh. It just dawned on me that you might be looking for an accepting church that also accepts alternative sexual orientations. Happy to oblige.

    Thanks, google.

  • gumby
    If truth is where philosophy ends...where does it begin?

    Philosophy cannot begin untill there is history or a time element to practice it on. It like trying to deciding to write history starting right'd only have a page or two. Plilosophy needs experinces to voice it's ideas.

    I hear JW's offer free bible studies if'n yer a lookin for a good church.


  • DavidChristopher

    i need one that wants these 30 pieces of silver I am tired of carrying around.

  • JamesThomas

    Philosophy, like religion, is a made up clown of the mind masquerading as an important king.

    You want acceptance? then don't join the circus, and stay out of the ring.


  • gumby

    Jgnathead ya fruitcake, what if you don't agree with the statements of faith this page says "we" believe in?

    of Faith of the EFCA

    The doctrinal position of The Evangelical Free Church of America is summarized in our twelve-article Statement of Faith. We believe:

    1. The Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired Word of God, without error in the original writings, the complete revelation of His will for the salvation of men and the Divine and final authority for Christian faith and life.

    2. In one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect and eternally existing in three persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

    3. That Jesus Christ is true God and true man, having been conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary. He died on the cross, a sacrifice for our sins according to the Scriptures. Further, He arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven, where, at the right hand of the Majesty on High, He is now our High Priest and Advocate.

    4. That the ministry of the Holy Spirit is to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ and, during this age, to convict men, regenerate the believing sinner, and indwell, guide, instruct and empower the believer for godly living and service.

    5. That man was created in the image of God but fell into sin and is, therefore, lost, and only through regeneration by the Holy Spirit can salvation and spiritual life be obtained.

    6. That the shed blood of Jesus Christ and His resurrection provide the only ground for justification and salvation for all who believe, and only such as receive Jesus Christ are born of the Holy Spirit and, thus become children of God.

    7. That water baptism and the Lord's Supper are ordinances to be observed by the Church during the present age. They are, however, not to be regarded as means of salvation.

    8. That the true Church is composed of all such persons who through saving faith in Jesus Christ have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit and are united together in the Body of Christ of which He is the Head.

    9. That only those who are, thus, members of the true Church shall be eligible for membership in the local church.

    10. That Jesus Christ is the Lord and Head of the Church and that every local church has the right, under Christ, to decide and govern its own affairs.

    11. In the personal, premillennial and imminent coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and that this "Blessed Hope" has a vital bearing on the personal life and service of the believer.

    12. In the bodily resurrection of the dead; of the believer to everlasting blessedness and joy with the Lord; of the unbeliever to judgment and everlasting conscious punishment.

    Gumby.....who thinks they need at least a couple more
  • jgnat

    Two thoughts.

    It dawned on me that philosophy is born out of language. So a pre-language culture cannot philosophize. That is the start.

    Also, gumby, I didn't interpret "accept me in" to be an all-inclusive term. Is Christopher Columbus looking for a body of believers with a non-conditional inclusiveness? Then l'arche is for him.

  • Star Moore
    Star Moore

    David, why do you want to give 30 pieces of silver...Judas betrayed Jesus with that? You wouldn't want to betray Jesus, would you? ..

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    Sometimes I like to wonder if we are all just pawns in some kind of sick cosmic joke.
    I heard a philosophy teacher (and priest) say that once. I love it.

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