I was always aware that I was pretty stupid - but not to this point! Geesh - the damn reasoning book is on the CD - what a dunce I am!
Anyway - I think the whole argument is lame - esp the final analogy. Here is the section;
Is there any objection to sharing in celebrations that may have unchristian roots as long as it is not done for religious reasons?
Eph. 5:10, 11: "Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord; and quit sharing with them in the unfruitful works that belong to the darkness, but, rather, even be reproving them."
2 Cor. 6:14-18: "What fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Be´lial? Or what portion does a faithful person have with an unbeliever? And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? . . . ‘"Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves," says Jehovah, "and quit touching the unclean thing"’; ‘"and I will take you in, . . . and you will be sons and daughters to me," says Jehovah the Almighty.’" (Genuine love for Jehovah and a strong desire to be pleasing to him will help a person to break free from unchristian practices that may have had emotional appeal. A person who really knows and loves Jehovah does not feel that by shunning practices that honor false gods or that promote falsehood he is in any way deprived of happiness. Genuine love causes him to rejoice, not over unrighteousness, but with the truth. See 1 Corinthians 13:6.)
Compare Exodus 32:4-10. Notice that the Israelites adopted an Egyptian religious practice but gave it a new name, "a festival to Jehovah." But Jehovah severely punished them for this. Today we see only 20th-century practices associated with holidays. Some may appear harmless. But Jehovah observed firsthand the pagan religious practices from which these originated. Should not his view be what matters to us?
Illustration:
Suppose a crowd come to a gentleman’s home saying they are there to celebrate his birthday. He does not favor the celebration of birthdays. He does not like to see people overeat or get drunk or engage in loose conduct. But some of them do all those things, and they bring presents for everyone there except him! On top of all that, they pick the birthday of one of the man’s enemies as the date for the celebration. How would the man feel? Would you want to be a party to it? This is exactly what is being done by Christmas celebrations.
He does not favor the celebration of birthdays.
They have provided no evidence that Jesus fits this description - that he does not favor Birthdays.
He does not like to see people overeat or get drunk or engage in loose conduct.
Many thoughtful Christians do not do these things to celebrate Christmas. The assertion is that they all do this!
they bring presents for everyone there except him!
And just how would celebrants today bring them to Jesus? He is already gone from the earth!
On top of all that, they pick the birthday of one of the man’s enemies as the date for the celebration.
They have neither proven this to be true - nor has anyone chosen a date of Jesus' enemy as the date. They have provided no conclusive evidence of this assertion.
But Jehovah observed firsthand the pagan religious practices from which these originated. Should not his view be what matters to us?
He also observed the origin of wedding rings, honeymoons, bridal veils, windchimes. Yet Jw's use these without thought.
This entire argument is an effort to knock down a straw man, IMO.
Jeff