Childlessness: Missing Part of My Humanity

by prophecor 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • tijkmo
    tijkmo

    i remember just as suddenly thinking this way too...its comes without warning and takes you completely by surprise...i remember being at disney several years running and being thankful i didnt have kids to take and then 1 year thinking i wish i had kids to take...

    i remember thinking i didnt know what it was like to stay up all night nursing a sick child

    i remember wanting to explain the world to them, help them with their homework, take them to all the places i had been to show them why i loved life

    in many ways i think it was the catylist to my becoming emotionally involved with a troubled young woman (not a child!) in my hall.

    which of course the elders fully understood....ha

    but at least jehovah does...ha

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    tijkmo, I think we have more in common than we realise. Funny thing was (actually not funny at all) was the reason for breakdown in my jw marriage - I didn't want children - but in a strange twist of irony now I do.

  • tijkmo
    tijkmo

    ballsy....the irony just knocks me out

  • SWALKER
    SWALKER

    Would anyone like to borrow my 21 yr old son? It would do one of two things...make you wonder why you felt bad about not having children or make you feel sorry that I did!

    Swalker (Loves sons, just wish they loved back!!!)

  • Balsam
    Balsam

    Having children is both rewarding and frustrating. You can be the greatest parent in the world and your kid can be a total screw up or a criminal. Though by far most kids don't turn out that way. My husband and I went to school with a fellow who had the greatest parents and he got hooked on drugs and went to prison for being a pedophile. It broke his mother's heart she ended up dying shortly after we went to prison. His Dad is so disgusted with him he only has limited contact with him. This guy totally ruined his parents life and used up their savings for their old age because he needed attorneys to defend him. Sickening situation for any parent. I have a nephew who was in prison for 10 years for armed robbery and got more time for trying to escape twice. His Mom was heart broken too and my brother is sickened that his son would do such a thing. He is out of prison now but still from what my brother says continues to not act responsibly.

    It is the biggest crap shoot there can ever be having children. I have often felt that had I known how my life with my children would be I would have given it a great more thought before jumping in the frying pan of having kids. So in some ways your blessed not having any, but I can understand how you feel you missed out on a very common part of life.

    Mentoring a child or adopting a child is a good way to go, still lots of kids out there that need a caring person to give them direction and love.

  • prophecor
    prophecor
    Would anyone like to borrow my 21 yr old son? It would do one of two things...make you wonder why you felt bad about not having children or make you feel sorry that I did!

    Swalker (Loves sons, just wish they loved back!!!)

    Swalker, I know the frustration that parents feel, to a degree, regarding thier children. I have seen the struggle second hand from dealing with OPC's ( Other Peoples Children ), thru the dealings with my wife and stepchildren. I know all too well how parents could wish to take their children to the older men, as was once done in the days of old Israel, and have them legally stoned to death, with the parents casting the first stone! Yet, still that, too, at times appears to be the missing peice of the puzzle for me. Not the casting of stones, but the significance of the struggle. I know the horrors that our children can bring upon us, as I was a renegade, a rebelious one, and should have been dead a long time ago, acording to some of the things I've done in my life. Yet, I'm paying for my crimes, on a daily basis. All the things my parents warned me about, everytime they tried to help and I would bite the hand that fed me, every heartbreak that was a result of my hands, delivered over to my parents, I'm am paying for, in various facets of my life. We all in the end, get pretty much exactly what we put into this life.

  • SWALKER
    SWALKER

    When my 21 yr old was 18, he went out and bought an old 70's cadillac...white/red velvet interior! (I knew he bought it because he knew he was going to wreck it and felt safer driving around in a tank!) One night he came in my bedroom, woke me up to tell me that he was going to Mexico and was driving that car. I told him it wouldn't make it, but he took off anyway. He did make it across the border and then the car started smoking, he was going about 20 mph and the car caught on fire. He had to jump out with only his shorts and shoes on...no shirt. He had his passport in his pocket, but lost everything else. Of course he calls me and wants me to wire money. I asked him where he was and he didn't know the name of the town...so it took him another day to find that out. He wanted to fly home but I decided that he needed to learn a better lesson, so I bought him a bus ticket. It took him 5 days on the bus to get home...he hasn't been far from home since.

    That was only 1 of a 1000 stories I have to tell about this kid. Always had to learn the hard way....and still learning...

    My oldest son never gave me a moments trouble...very nice guy still!!! You just never know what you are going to get!

    Swalker

  • prophecor
    prophecor



    Balsam

    It is the biggest crap shoot there can ever be having children. I have often felt that had I known how my life with my children would be I would have given it a great more thought before jumping in the frying pan of having kids.



    How true it is. It's all so unpredictable, so mysterious. You could be spun in a thousand and one different directions. I'll never know what the future would have held for me either, Narkissos, (sp) but your journey sounds as if you've found fulfillment in your walk as new father. My wife; I watch her struggle with her children, and how she so intricately loves each of them, regardless for what they've done, or not done for that matter. I watch how she labors with them.

    Right or wrong, six ways to Sunday, your lovers and spouses can be here today, gone tomorrow, for various reasons, but the connection that comes from having children is an impregnible wall that can not be easily torn down. The blood is thicker than water scenario, can effectively only be fought on that front. The bonding between parent and child says a lot about our humanity. To experience it is a taste that can be savored, or just stomached.

    Swalker, I feel for you as you endeavor to make the most of a complicated relationship, especially as it revolves around sons to fathers. I can know no more difficult an existence, that of fathers and how it is they relate to thier sons. I always had a feeling that were I ever to become a father, a daughter I could more efectively handle, as opposed to a son. They require such intricate programming that I know I would never be capable launching one sucessfully. Father and son histories of my own are so fraught with destructive energy that the blueprints I have would be an abysmal failure in the making.

    I feel your bones, S

    Art

  • PoppyR
    PoppyR

    Grass is always greener. Dont get me wrong, I adore my boys and dont regret having them.. but I often crave the simplicity of life without children and the freedom to just up and go. however I do understand the not having the choice thing is painful. But I think it's like anything in life, TRY and see the positives, if you really want children, there are other avenues, but maybe you can find things in your life to fill the gap.

    When I was a JW I wished I hadn't had children, I felt I was such a rubbish example we were all going to die at Armageddon! Now my views have slightly changed, and I am glad I had them, love them unconditionally and now can support them whatever and whoever they want to be.

    Thinking of you.

    Poppy

  • Balsam
    Balsam

    Art,

    Bless your desire, and your need for the experience. I will gladly hand you mine if I could. I have two sons age 23 and 18 and now a new grandson from my oldest son. And my middle son who would be 20 now died at age 15 because of the carelessness of a JW kid bringing him home from the KH on a Sunday. The pain from my son dying is beyond explaination. How many times have I wished to numb myself from the pain. Yet like you I craved that experience when I was 30 and never thought I'd have any. I didn't have children until I was 32 and my youngest one was born when I was 36 and I rejoiced to have these 3 sweet boys. Sometimes I wish I could erase it but then I look at the baby face of my sons and my new grandson just 6 weeks old and I think would I want to miss this? I don't know my heart says yes, but then it says no too. I can understand where your coming from. As many have said Children can bring the greatest joy and the greatest pain. It is all part of life for those who have them. We who have children envy you who don't have them, and you envy us our experience. Funny when you think about it. Life is never boring usually if you have children and grandchildren that is for sure. I suppose if your a willing to suffer kids are for you.

    Warm hugs brother,

    Balsam

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