You guys are all great,thanks, thats another thing that initially shocked me, through my studies I always heard about "apostates" and how they were terrible people, just another lie. Waiting, my anger isnt connected to my separation, he wasnt a jw. I am just so relieved I wasnt baptised! The anger really flares when i read about horrible mistreatments by/of jws, and when reasoning with jw family is like banging my head against the wall. How can they be so thick!