Simple Proof of WTS claims to be "Inspired" Prophet

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  • crazies

    (Deutrernomy 18:20-22)

    20 “‘However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 And in case you should say in your heart: “How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?” 22 when the prophet ( nabiy') speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it. You must not get frightened at him.’


    Prophet--( nabiy')

    1) spokesman, speaker, prophet

    a) prophet

    b) false prophet

    c) heathen prophet

    (Matthew 24:23,24)

    23 “Then if anyone says to YOU, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.

    (Reasoning from the Scriptures pp136)

    Have not Jehovah’s Witnesses made errors in their teachings?

    Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets. They have made mistakes. Like the apostles of Jesus Christ, they have at times had some wrong expectations.—Luke 19:11; Acts 1:6.

    (Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary)


    : outstanding or brilliant in a way or to a degree suggestive of divine inspiration <gave an inspired performance>


    1 a : a divine influence or action on a person believed to qualify him or her to receive and communicate sacred revelation b : the action or power of moving the intellect or emotions c : the act of influencing or suggesting opinions

    (Awake 93 3/22 Why So Many False Alarms?)

    Jehovah’s Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus’ second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions ‘in the name of Jehovah.’ Never did they say, ‘These are the words of Jehovah.’ The Watchtower, the official journal of Jehovah’s Witnesses, has said: “We have not the gift of prophecy.”

    (Jeremiah 1:9 NWT)

    9 At that Jehovah thrust his hand out and caused it to touch my mouth. Then Jehovah said to me: “Here I have put my words in your mouth.

    (W79 9/1 The Royal “Shepherd” of Bible Prophecy p29-30 par.28)

    28 Unlike the clergy class, those of the Jeremiah class have been sent by Jehovah to speak in his name. Nevertheless, the clergy prophets also claim to speak in his name and, hence, to tell the Bible truth. In this way Christendom’s religious leaders really ‘steal’ away the force and effect of the calamitous message proclaimed by the Jeremiah class. True, the Jeremiah class back up their message by quoting the words, “This is what Jehovah has said.” But the clergy try to add weight and the ring of truth to what they preach by affixing the words, “An utterance!” Seemingly they speak from God. So they may use a Bible text as a pretext for preaching about politics or even war propaganda. Yet Jehovah is against such clergy prophets whom he did not send forth from his intimate group and who ‘steal’ words from his Bible in order to make a wrong application of them.—Jer. 23:30, 31.

    (w59 1/15 Down with the Old—Up with the New! P41)

    . Jehovah’s witnesses are deeply grateful today that the plain facts show that God has been pleased to use them. All the preaching and all the Bible educational work that they have done till now in 175 countries and islands of the sea they confess has been, not by help of a military army, nor by human power, but by God’s spirit, his invisible active force. (Zech. 4:6, AV) It has been because Jehovah thrust out his hand of power and touched their lips and put his words in their mouths. It has evidently been because he commissioned them to be over the nations and over the kingdoms

    (w57 6/15 Overseers of Jehovah’s People p370 par7)

    7a Let us now unmistakably identify Jehovah’s channel of communication for our day, that we may continue in his favor.

    7b It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the “slave” as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision.

    (W94 3/1 Jehovah’s Judgment Against False Teachers p11 par.13,14)

    13 Please note Jeremiah chapter 23, verse 22: “If they had stood in my intimate group, then they would have made my people hear my own words, and they would have caused them to turn back from their bad way and from the badness of their dealings.” If Christendom’s religious prophets were standing in Jehovah’s intimate group, in close relationship with him as though a faithful and discreet servant, then they too would be living by God’s standards. They too would have been making the peoples of Christendom hear God’s own words. Instead, the modern-day false teachers have made their followers blinded servants of God’s Adversary, Satan the Devil.

    14 Exposure of the clergy by the Jeremiah class has been powerful.

    (W86 4/15 What Jehovah’s Times and Seasons Mean for Our Day p18 par.11)

    11 So God’s servants know what this world’s rulers do not. They know Jehovah’s purposes and his seasons. First Peter 1:11 says that, in the past, God’s servants “kept on investigating what particular season or what sort of season the spirit in them was indicating.” With God’s spirit indicating this, the apostle Paul could say to true fellow worshipers: “You people know the season.” (Romans 13:11) Since Jehovah’s servants of today obey him as ruler, God’s holy spirit also reveals to them what season it is from his viewpoint. Amos 3:7 says: “The Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets.”

    (Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary)


    1 : to make known through divine inspiration
    2 : to make (something secret or hidden) publicly or generally known <reveal a secret>

    (W80 10/15 Execution of the “Great Harlot” Nears p17 par.1,2)

    THE Creator, Jehovah God, knows exactly what will take place in the future. He is “the One telling from the beginning the finale.” (Isa. 46:10) Being “perfect in knowledge,” he knows the details about the “finale” of this system of things at the coming “great tribulation.” (Job 37:16; Matt. 24:21) Because he is a God of love, he reveals enough of these details to those who serve him loyally that they can be properly informed, upbuilt and protected. The Bible states: “The Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets.”—Amos 3:7.

    2 Thus, God gives his humble servants special knowledge that others do not have. As the apostle Paul said: “This wisdom not one of the rulers of this system of things came to know . . . For it is to us God has revealed them through his spirit.” (1 Cor. 2:8-10) Having advance knowledge from Jehovah, his servants are equipped—indeed, commissioned, by God—to herald throughout the world the warning of this system’s approaching end, along with the comforting message of the new order.—Matt. 24:14.

    (W72 3/15 Wanted—a Messenger p189)

    Therefore, when it came time for the name of Jehovah and his purposes to be declared to the people, along with God’s warning that Christendom is in her “time of the end,” who qualified to be commissioned? Who was willing to undertake this monumental task as Jehovah’s “servant”? Was there anyone to whom Jehovah’s heavenly “chariot” could roll up and whom it could confront? More accurately, was there any group on whom Jehovah would be willing to bestow the commission to speak as a “prophet” in His name, as was done toward Ezekiel back there in 613 B.C.E.?

    (W72 4/1 ‘They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them’)

    (P197) A third way of coming to know Jehovah God is through his representatives. In ancient times he sent prophets as his special messengers. While these men foretold things to come, they also served the people by telling them of God’s will for them at that time, often also warning them of dangers and calamities. People today can view the creative works. They have at hand the Bible, but it is little read or understood. So, does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come?


    These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? The clergy of the so-called “Christian” nations hold themselves before the people as being the ones commissioned to speak for God. But, as pointed out in the previous issue of this magazine, they have failed God and failed as proclaimers of his kingdom by approving a man-made political organization, the League of Nations (now the United Nations), as “the political expression of the

    However, Jehovah did not let the people of Christendom, as led by the clergy, go without being warned that the League was a counterfeit substitute for the real . He had a “prophet” to warn them. This “prophet” was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah’s Christian witnesses. They are still proclaiming a warning, and have been joined and assisted in their commissioned work by hundreds of thousands of persons who have listened to their message with belief.

    (p198-199) Thus this group of anointed followers of Jesus Christ, doing a work in Christendom paralleling Ezekiel’s work among the Jews, were manifestly the modern-day Ezekiel, the “prophet” commissioned by Jehovah to declare the good news of God’s Messianic kingdom and to give warning to Christendom.

    (p200) The scroll was doubtless delivered to Ezekiel by the hand of one of the cherubs in the vision. This would indicate that Jehovah’s witnesses today make their declaration of the good news of the Kingdom under angelic direction and support. (Rev. 14:6, 7; Matt. 25:31, 32) And since no word or work of Jehovah can fail, for he is God Almighty, the nations will see the fulfillment of what these witnesses say as directed from heaven.

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  • AuldSoul

    This is excellent reasoning! I can so easily imagine reading this 1979 quote in a Watchtower study respecting prophets...

    Great analysis, crazies. This would work well with mkr32208's idea about commenting at the WT study!


  • PaNiCAtTaCk

    i really enjoyed this. Thanks for the hard work and easy reasonings.

  • DavidChristopher

    Make me wonder why Jehovahs "prophets" didn't do and show others how to obey Jesus' commandment. They need to make up their minds if they are prophets or not. If they are not, what are they? they want and crave that power, but do they want any of the responsibility that comes with it? I would like to get them all together and question them sometime. I tried to, but there is no way to contact them. There is no place to ask a question, or email them on their website. Why is that? Ever wonder who they are? It could be a bunch of 5 year olds for all I know.

  • heathen

    Ironic how they sound like Bill Clinton in front of the supreme court ....... That depends on what is ,is or what exactly do you mean by sex , make up your own definition . jeezus H cahhhhrrrrissst

  • yesidid

    Thank you crazies,

    That was another great post. Simple but undeniable.


  • Ingenuous

    Nicely done, crazies. I'm saving that post.

  • DavidChristopher

    I guess that is where his nickname "slick willy" came from. Presidents have a nice little thing going too. When they appoint a "justice" that is the one in charge of keeping him in check, defining his actions. Kind of like a accused car thief getting to hire his own judge and prosecuter to decide his fate. Wasn't Bush pushing for a end to the two term rule?

    Strikes me as odd too, why would you need to put guns on people to MAKE them accept "freedom"? Why would they fight it? I think he needs to go to San Quinten and visit Charles Manson to get a few pointers on convincing others to do your bidding. Hell, even a used car salesman could get him started in the right direction. I could sell a brand new car for $5 without a gun over them.

    Here is a funny tidbit I seen on the news the other day..unidenified perp goes to payphone..calls 911...and reports 6 bombs in 6 courthouses. He shuts 6 courthouses down, and takes countless cops off the street with a phone call. I am impressed! He must not have had the money to pay a fine, or had something planned close by. Now everyone knows how to do it, even better, there is nothing they can do about it. I went to court the other day and asked them about that. They got real mad, and started showing me all the security measures in our local courthouse! Good thing I am not a terrorist. Oh, and they said they are going to burn that guy if they catch him or her. And my girl thinks "I" am crazy.

  • heathen

    I know exactly how you feel there dave. These people are running the government like the manson family , they don't have a problem "justifying" murder and destruction . I think the WTBTS can show a few pointers on how to exact blind obedience and lie without actually lying by using convoluted reasonings . It really is an art form .

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