JWs and paganism

by Super_Becka 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • M.J.

    more on board games. BAAAD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senet

    Senet, a board game from predynastic and ancient Egypt, is the oldest board game whose ancient existence has been confirmed, dating to circa 3500 BC [1]. The full name of the game in Ancient Egyptian was zn.t n.t H'b meaning the "passing game."

    Senet may be the oldest board game in World History. Other contenders for this title include Go and Oware; although it is impossible to prove which game is the oldest. The oldest remnants of any ancient board game ever unearthed however are those of Senet, found in Predynastic and First Dynasty burials of Egypt (see ref. [2]), circa 3500 BC and 3100 BC respectively. Senet is also featured in a painting from the tomb of Merknera (3300-2700 BC) (see external links below). Another painting of this ancient game is from the Third Dynasty tomb of Hesy (c. 2686-2613 BC). It is also depicted in a painting in the tomb of Rashepes (c. 2500 BC).

    By the time of the New Kingdom in Egypt (1567-1085 BC), it had become a kind of talisman for the journey of the dead. Because of the element of luck in the game and the Egyptian belief in determinism, it was believed that a successful player was under the protection of the major gods of the national pantheon: Ra, Thoth, and sometimes Osiris. Consequently, Senet boards were often placed in the grave alongside other useful objects for the dangerous journey through the afterlife and the game is referenced in Chapter XVII of the Book of the Dead. The game was also adopted in the Levant and as far as Cyprus and Crete but with apparently less religious significance.

  • Super_Becka

    Let's bump this thread back up a bit to see if I can't get a few more replies before it disappears into the masses of older threads.

    Great work, guys, this stuff is just priceless. And thanks for the help with the background on the origins of some of these things, it's a big help. Keep it coming!!

    Merry Christmas!!

    -Becka :)

  • jgnat

    Great research, M.J. great links!

    Here's an example that a JW has never been able to explain to me.

    An example of Jehovah implementing pagan symbols is the Isrealite altar. It had horns, copying "pagan" designs from nations around them, such as the Egyptians and the Caananites. The Isrealite artisans would have known how to design such an altar, because they would have been familiar with them from Egypt.


    It seems to me if Jehovah has no problem "borrowing" designs from "pagan" nations, we shouldn't have a problem either. What the Isrealites DID stop was the reprehensible practice of child sacrifice and temple prostitution.

  • Super_Becka

    Horned altars, huh?? Actually sounds a lot like Cretan religious symbols - the Cretans, before their civilization fell around 1200BC, used bull horns in their religious symbolism, the bull being central to their religion.


    Also, more hypocrisy from the WTS, I'm not surprised.

    -Becka :)

  • M.J.

    Boy that Canaanite altar sure looks familiar...where have I seen something like that before?

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