Do you think that JW's will "reverse" their 1914 generation doctrine back?

by booker-t 15 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • blondie
    blondie

    They did tweak it a bit in 1997.

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    w97 6/1 p. 28 Questions From Readers

    "The Watchtower" of November 1, 1995, focused on what Jesus said about "this generation," as we read at Matthew 24:34. Does this mean that there is some question about whether God’s Kingdom was set up in heaven in 1914?

    That discussion in The Watchtower offered no change at all in our fundamental teaching about 1914. Jesus set out the sign to mark his presence in Kingdom power. We have ample evidence that this sign has been in course of fulfillment since 1914. The facts about wars, famines, plagues, earthquakes, and other evidences bear out that since 1914, Jesus has been active as King of God’s Kingdom. This indicates that since then we have been in the conclusion of the system of things.

    What, then, was The Watchtower clarifying? Well, the key was the sense in which Jesus used the word "generation" at Matthew 24:34. That passage reads: "Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." What did Jesus mean by "generation," both in his day and in ours?

    Many scriptures confirm that Jesus did not use "generation" with regard to some small or distinct group, meaning only the Jewish leaders or only his loyal disciples. Rather, he used "generation" in condemning the masses of Jews who rejected him. Happily, though, individuals could do what the apostle Peter urged on the day of Pentecost, repent and "get saved from this crooked generation."—Acts 2:40.

    In that statement, Peter was clearly not being precise as to any fixed age or length of time, nor was he tying the "generation" to any certain date. He did not say that people should get saved from the generation that was born in the same year Jesus was or the generation that was born in 29 C.E. Peter was speaking about the unbelieving Jews of that period—some perhaps being rather young, others being older—who had been exposed to Jesus’ teaching, had seen or heard of his miracles, and had not accepted him as Messiah.

    That evidently is how Peter understood Jesus’ use of "generation" when he and three other apostles were with Jesus on the Mount of Olives. According to Jesus’ prophetic statement, Jews of that period—basically, Jesus’ contemporaries—were going to experience or hear of wars, earthquakes, famines, and other evidences that the end of the Jewish system was near. In fact, that generation did not pass before the end came in 70 C.E.—Matthew 24:3-14, 34.

    It must be acknowledged that we have not always taken Jesus’ words in that sense. There is a tendency for imperfect humans to want to be specific about the date when the end will come. Recall that even the apostles sought more specifics, asking: "Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?"—Acts 1:6.

    With similar sincere intentions, God’s servants in modern times have tried to derive from what Jesus said about "generation" some clear time element calculated from 1914. For instance, one line of reasoning has been that a generation can be 70 or 80 years, made up of people old enough to grasp the significance of the first world war and other developments; thus we can calculate more or less how near the end is.

    However well-meaning such thinking was, did it comply with the advice Jesus went on to give? Jesus said: "Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. . . . Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming."—Matthew 24:36-42.

    So the recent information in The Watchtower about "this generation" did not change our understanding of what occurred in 1914. But it did give us a clearer grasp of Jesus’ use of the term "generation," helping us to see that his usage was no basis for calculating—counting from 1914—how close to the end we are.

  • Celia
    Celia

    I watched a documentary on PBS last night, about Isaac Newton "dark secrets". Apparently he calculated the end of the world, and the Battle of Armageddon for 2060 ! He also came to the conclusion that the Trinity doctrine was wrong, never told anybody of his views on this of course. He would have been burned for blasphemy and heresy.

  • luna2
    luna2

    I don't think they'd even want to reverse this one. They bit the bullet, received "new light" from Jerhoohaa and changed their pivotal doctrine. This was one of the "prophecies" that was a lynch pin of Jehovah's Witnesses. Thing is, is you can't change time, so all you can change is those teachings that are based on a time table and then hammer home the idea that all good, God-fearing, real, faithful and obedient Christians would NEVER want to question Jehoover's only true magazine publishing company.

    What else could they do? Even those just born (and not old enough to understand what was going on) in 1914 were dying off. It was best that they stop honking that horn and change before they were really up a creek. Now they don't have to keep looking at the calendar as the months and years keep marching on with no Big A.

    It doest seem to take many years or much distraction to cause most dubs to forget the "old" light. As long as they keep them running around like chickens with their heads cut off, studying, agonizing over whether they should obey the WTS and not send their kids to college, trying to make all the meetings while holding cleaning jobs that require that they work at night, and attempting to go out in service enough to avoid reprimands, the majority of dubs will be too busy and distracted to worry about it much.

  • Frogleg
    Frogleg

    Probably. As a matter of fact, these guys may catch on real quick and start having kind of a "Whonderful Whacko Watchtower Powerball Lottery", where each week a vote is taken among the GB as to what "new" date is now the one. See, then they can sell lottery tickets to the R&F and if you chose the right date, you win 10 extra hours on your monthly service report and a fabulous, all expenses paid trip to work door to door in beautiful Northern Manitoba!!!! The numbers racket is the magician's left hand, I agree with Luna2, it's just BS to add to the total distraction and keep up the level of "Godly fear". What was it Caligula said? Oh yeah: "I don't care if they love me, as long as they fear me."

  • willyloman
    willyloman

    Why would they? They got away with it. The fallout has been fairly minimal, despite the fact a number of people are on this forum in part because of the change in the generation teaching unveiled back in 1995.

    The rank and file either:

    1. Don't know there's been a change, or

    2. Didn't understand the whole thing in the first place.

    So, really, it's moot.

    The dubs found out (again) they could change a key foundational doctrine and most dubs wouldn't even blink. Why mess with a deal like that?

  • Muffinman
    Muffinman

    Well, a fairly minimal amount of peope left the organisation after the generation change in 1995, I know I accepted it without question. However, 1914 has been the very core of their teachings for so long, it would be hard for them to change it. If they did, they would lose both World War One and the Spanish Flu, two of the most central events they use to prove that we are living in the last days.

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