EMail response...to pro-JW article...

by upside/down 9 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    I sent this response to an email...it was in response to the article here on JWD about "Jehovah's Roofing Service" or something like that...
    Anyway...I've recieved a couple of unsolicited Witnoid (thanks Tetra for that term) emails and this is one of my responses...with their post at the bottom. I accidentally deleted an even better one...a 77 yr old Witnoid "sister" who automatically called me a liar and that it MUST BE MY FAULT that the "brothers" treated me unkindly...as Jojoba would NEVER ALLOW that....yeah right!

    Believe it...I speak the TRUTH! Unless you have proof that I'm lying...it would be a sin for you to attribute wrong motives or wrongdoing to me without such proof and witnesses...I stand by my words to the death.

    Yes, me and my family were more than hurt. Jehovah's "people" are more than "imperfect"...which is NO excuse. The level of wrongdoing and corruption goes from the top to the bottom...truly "apostate" in nature.This is about more than just being hurt by men... it's by truly examining what I've been taught was "truth" and finding out that it isn't! Like the Boraens...I have examined and "tested"...and my belief system was found extremely wanting...and flawed. Like Satan...it appears like "light"...but isn't.
    The "bigger picture" is exactly what I've looked at. I will NEVER serve any man made organization...especially a heartless publishing company that I've given the best years of my life to...that kicks me and my children to the curb like a cheap whore when it's done USING us. I will no longer make excuses for rampant and willful bad behaviour on the part of "brothers".
    You say..."Do something"...that's exactly what I've done. I've opened my eyes to how I've LET MYSELF and my family be victims of a very bad group of people. Yes, there may be some "good" people amongst the lot (like any "religion")...but for the most part they keep "their place" out of FEAR. I am under no obligation to subject me or my family to such heinous treatment as has been metted out to us...and that includes "the society" and their completely hypocritical and turning a blind-eye to SERIOUS WRONGDOING...they protect known pedophiles while kicking the victims out. Yes...my kids were abused by a "brother" who is welcomed and coddled by the "elders" because he's "rich"...and supposedly repentant...yet he still does drugs...molests kids and EVERYONE turns a blind eye...and SHUNS us...the victims. This has been going on for years...and he is now an elder with everyone so enamored with his "charisma"...yes...appointed "by holy spirit"....yeah right?
    Then I hear FROM AN ELDER about the UN debacle...investigate and find out "the truth" is really "the lie". "Get out of her my people if you do not want to share in her plagues". I sat before a group of "elders" that LIED to my face...and they know it. Then a CO covered for them and he too LIED to my face...then the "society"...backed all of them up and REFUSES to even look into the matters...saying "trust in Jehovah"...well they are the supposed "appointed" rep's for their now deaf/mute "god" and they do NOTHING. They are therefore accountable by their own so-called "teachings".
    For the record...I've regular pioneered for 5 years...served where the "need was great" for 12...served on the Kindom Hall Building Committee... was used for every possible "privelege" except a judicial committee during my 20 year stint...I was in GREAT standing...and chose to "get out", due to conscience matters... I only state this, not to show how "proud" I am...but to show I was no slacker/whiner witness...I worked HARD and did what most refused to do. No one was more "on board" than me... but even I have my limits.
    There is no "too late"...I refuse to worship a "god" that has such idiotic hypocrites as this for his "witnesses" (which I'm ashamed to have ever been a part of) and kills everyone else...it's impossible for God to be such. I refuse to worship a man-made "organization" out of FEAR.
    I'm enjoying life and raising my kids to be good humans...unlike my Dub counterparts that are self-righteous, judgemental and as hard necked as any ancient Israelite.
    Someday... when you've been kicked in the teeth repeatedly... or your loved ones get "screwed"...you'll get it. I was just like you for 20 years...an Watchtower "apologist"...NEVER AGAIN. The "world" has plenty to offer...and this is another Watchtower lie...I've had more "Samaritan" love and understanding than I ever got from my so-called "brothers"...which is a SHAME on them. I've never turned my back on a brother in need...but when I found myself in need... my "brothers" were too busy golfing, going on cruises and accumulating $$ to even throw me a crumb... I was stunned! My "worldly" parents and family...who I abandoned...to "serve" Jehovah...picked up the pieces...after me being gone for 20 years....that's true "christianity". My "brothers" failed...and I'm far from being the only one. The numbers PROVE the Witnesses are losing people quicker than they can reproduce or seduce people into joining...the growth in nearly EVERY westernized nation is NEGATIVE. This should tell you something...and it has nothing to do with "truth"...or the "love of the greater number cooling off"...it's because the Witnesses are mean and treat their own like crap... not Christlike.
    If you can do one thing that I'd encourage...look up the phrase "cognitive dissonance"...and do some research on it...you'll be amazed. And yes...apply it to YOU and the "organization"...
    I don't judge you or anyone...and yield the floor to truth...not a MAN MADE "organization" that claims the seat of Christ...without any credentials. Self-appointed proclaimers of "truth"... who just like the Pharisees...indeed appear "righteous"...but inside are full of dead mens bones...and unrighteousness.
    "By their FRUITS you will know them..."- The Bible.
    Sometimes the "truth" is a hard thing to swallow... I speak the "truth".
    Russell had it right..."RELIGION IS A SNARE AND A RACKET"....That includes the Watchtower "religion"...Christ advocated no religion...
    Steve



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    I cant believe (can we say "cognitive dissonance"?) you were a brother saying this.

    You know thats not true. And I am so sorry you feel that way. You and your family

    must have been hurt. But Jehovahs people are also imperfect.

    Look at the biggar picture of Jehovah and Jesus holding our their hand to you, the world has nothing to offer and when you see all these terrible things happening you must know Armageddon is right in front of us.

    Do something about it before its to late. You and your family.
    Take care

    So what do you think...?

    u/d(of the pearls before swine class)

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    I think they think, after a fashion. I think all JWs have to quickly classify, label, and dismiss all questioners and objectors to keep their doctrine sacrosanct. Any JW who does not do this will eventually leave. It is only a matter of time.

    AuldSoul

  • kwintestal
    kwintestal

    I've recieved a few emails from these jokers too!

    One guy said:

    Hello,

    I would just like to say that there is nothing wrong with the people
    turning their insurance money to the regional building committees.
    Afterall that is what it is for.

    I haven't replied yet, but I want to compare the WT to that couple in the New Testement who bragged that they were giving so much, to make a show of it, but didn't give what they said they were and God struck them down dead.

    Kwin

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    Look at the biggar picture of Jehovah and Jesus holding our their hand to you, the world has nothing to offer and when you see all these terrible things happening you must know Armageddon is right in front of us.

    Can't ANYONE in history say..."when you see all these terrible things happening you must know Armageddon is right in front of us."?

    And even if it was...SO WHAT! How does that change the fact that the Witnoids are F'n hypocrites...and liars?

    These people make my head hurt...

    u/d

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    I've exchanged some emails with some of these guys too. One even went so far as to suggest that my ex, at 4 years of age, was in the wrong and brought the sexual abuse upon herself.

    And people wonder why I have problems controlling my blood pressure...

    W

  • upside/down
    upside/down
    You really should visit this and let your "conscience" be your guide...not some publishing company. "Truth" is truth...and no falshoold can EVER change that. Christ NEVER showed a fear of liars. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/101314/1.ashx For all the "world" to see... I'm not "anonymous"...I'm a real person with a real family and I'm not AFRAID of anything anymore that eminates from men...even JW "men". I'm no lying "apostate"...they all live in Brooklyn. Thank you! --
    "Acco"

    (Attachments successfully scanned for viruses.) Attachment 1: FH000019.JPG (image/jpeg) This was my final reply... u/d(of the not afraid to show my face class)

  • upside/down
    upside/down
    Hi Steve

    Was good to hear from you.
    I am really sorry to hear the hard time you and your family have had in the truth.

    It is imperfect people. My dad is an elder and my husband a ministerial servant and yes its not all been plain sailing. But in my heart I love JEHOVAH, not the imperfect men who we as a family have had run-ins with to the point where we could not take anymore. But praying to Jehovah really helped us and other lovely brothers and sisters in the hall, and I am glad to say we are all still at the meeting.

    I love travelling all over the world and seeing Kingdom Halls and Jehovahs people there - we have a bond not other religion has without a doubt.

    We have to agree to disagree and take care.

    Ad.

    I guess this sums it up...

    u/d(of the bang my head against the wall class)

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    Shhhhh!!!

    I am working the WT cult for all it's worth with one of the deceived dubs who emailed me about my reply to the article. He's sent me 4 emails so far and I keep asking him questions that must be getting the cognitive dissonance going overtime in his mind.

  • TopHat
    TopHat
    I haven't replied yet, but I want to compare the WT to that couple in the New Testement who bragged that they were giving so much, to make a show of it, but didn't give what they said they were and God struck them down dead.

    Kwin

    Kwin, where is that scripture...I keep thinking about it to and want to use it.

    upside/down...Not perfect...I hear that all the time when the dubs can't argue the point anymore.

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    bttt...

    For some newbies to possibly glean from...

    u/d

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