Why can't Jehovah make the money grow on trees!? :D lol lol lol!
"Brothers and sisters, open your hearts and your wallets." - Assembly day
by truthseeker 43 Replies latest jw friends
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inquirer
It's so rude to ask for money like that!
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Mary
Why can't Jehovah make the money grow on trees!?
He did.....you don't really think it was fruit growing on the Tree of Knowledge that Adam and Eve took do ya? Yep, after they took the Original Greenback, Jehovah decided that we only deserved to live on credit cards whereby we would be charged exhorbant interest rates........Jesus bailed us out once, but then we jes' couldn't resist the temptation of living on credit, so we're right back where we started from.
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atypical
Tophat, do a search on the watchtower cd rom if you have it for "marked person" or "marked individual". It will answer your question and turn your stomach. I copied some material from the 9/1 1981 watchtower below:
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However, what if there is someone who is significantly deviating from God’s principles, perhaps being grossly lazy or critical, a ‘profitless talker’ who is a constant ‘meddler with what does not concern him’? (2 Thess. 3:11) Or, the problem may be one of scheming to take material advantage of others, indulging in entertainment that clearly is improper, or getting involved in questionable conduct that does not at this point merit judicial action. The elders have tried to help him, but he persists and may be affecting others in the congregation or presenting a danger to others. The elders can discuss the matter and may assign one of their number to give a firm, direct Scriptural talk on the matter to the congregation. Without mentioning the "disorderly" one by name, the elders may thus be able ‘to shut the mouth of’ such an unruly one.—Titus 1:10-13.
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Should such a situation exist in a congregation, individual Christians might feel obliged to ‘mark’ the person. Paul explains what this, in part, involves, saying: "Stop associating with him, that he may become ashamed." (2 Thess. 3:14) That would mean your curtailing social involvement with the "marked" person. You should not announce or publicize your private decision, nor try to influence others. But you personally would avoid the company of the "marked" person, in keeping with the healthful counsel given by the congregation’s elders. You would not, though, reject him altogether, for he is still your brother, a fellow Christian for whom Christ died. Rather than allowing any seeds of "hate" to develop, you should "reprove" him. How? Well, in addition to being a good example yourself, your kindly but firmly obeying the direction "Stop associating with him" is one form of correction. But you can do more to help.—Lev. 19:17; Titus 2:7, 8.
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You will still be around the "marked" Christian at congregational meetings and in the field service. Thus, you may have occasion to carry out your other obligation involved in ‘marking’ him: "Do not be considering him as an enemy, but continue admonishing him as a brother." (2 Thess. 3:14, 15) If you did not fulfill your responsibility as to this aspect of God’s counsel, but treated the "marked" person as an enemy, your course might be as unloving as his.
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It is to be hoped that the "marked" individual will become ashamed. He may realize that it is by Scriptural direction that you are avoiding his social company. This discipline may help him to "straighten up the hands that hang down and the enfeebled knees, . . . that what is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather that it may be healed." In view of the vast numbers of loyal brothers associating with God’s congregation today, likely it will be seldom that Christians are obliged to ‘mark’ a disorderly brother. But when this does occur, perhaps correction, combined with continued admonishing, will ‘yield peaceable fruit, namely, righteousness.’—Heb. 12:11-13.
There is plenty more that has been written on "marking". I have been a victim of "marking", and it can be very painful. Instead of announcing your name from the platform, a talk is given which does not mention your name, but leaves no doubt as to who is being talked about. Instead of a quick announcement, a lengthy talk divulges your supposed "sins". Thereafter, you can expect horrendous treatment. Just a couple examples: You show up at a gathering, and everybody leaves. You walk up to a group of people at the hall who are engaged in conversation, and they all walk away. That's what marking means, and it is alive and well with jws, unfortunately.