Ashamed

by Marvin Shilmer 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer
    But whoever has this world’s means for supporting life and beholds his brother having need and yet shuts the door of his tender compassions upon him, in what way does the love of God remain in him? Little children, let us love, neither in word nor with the tongue, but in deed and truth.—1 John 3:17-18 NWT

    You must love your neighbor as yourself—Matt 22:39 NWT

    Tuesday, in the immediate aftermath of the World Trade Center bombing and collapse, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses locked the doors of its Brooklyn facilities. First hand, I was told this was to keep out the traffic. On the outside were countless exhausted persons in utter shock and in grief. They had a need. A microcosmic tragedy amidst colossal tragedy. What a spectacle. I am ashamed.

  • NameWithheld2
    NameWithheld2

    Marvin, I have thought the same to be true based on comments posted on the GC/WOL boards from bethelites. I'm curious, from where did you learn this info? I'd like to know from people who were there to watch this first hand ...

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    Marvin:

    That is a truly disgraceful action. These people claim to be Christian, yet this action goes against every principle that is considered a "Christian" virtue!

    How verifiable is this? Are there witnesses willing to talk to journalists? It occurs to me that the local Brooklyn and New York newspapers might be interested in learning the reaction of the Watchtower Society to the tragedy; seeing exactly the kind of people that they support with their taxes and charitable donations.

    I'm sick. Sick to the pit of my stomach.

    Expatbrit

  • Nicodemus
    Nicodemus

    Marvin,

    Thanks for your post. I believe that what you say is true, I have never known you to make statements irresponsibly, unless you were sure of the accuracy of what you presented.

    I can’t help but think of the example of our Lord, Jesus Christ.

    It may be true that his primary goal was to preach concerning the Kingdom of God. It is true that he was primarily known as “teacher.”

    But what caused people to be willing to listen to what Jesus had to say? What made Jesus, and his message, attractive?

    Likely, you enjoy the following account as much as I do:

    (Luke 9:10-17)
    And when the apostles returned they recounted to him what things they had done. With that he took them along and withdrew to privacy into a city called Beth·sa'i·da. 11 But the crowds, getting to know it, followed him. And he received them kindly and began to speak to them about the kingdom of God, and he healed those needing a cure. 12 Then the day started to decline. The twelve now came up and said to him: “Dismiss the crowd, that they may go into the villages and countryside round about and procure lodging and find provisions, because out here we are in a lonely place.” 13 But he said to them: “YOU give them something to eat.” They said: “We have nothing more than five loaves and two fishes, unless perhaps we ourselves go and buy foodstuffs for all these people.” 14 They were, in fact, about five thousand men. But he said to his disciples: “Have them recline as at meals, in groups of about fifty each.” 15 And they did so and had them all recline. 16 Then taking the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, blessed them and broke them up and began to give them to the disciples to set before the crowd. 17 So they all ate and were satisfied, and the surplus that they had was taken up, twelve baskets of fragments. (bold mine)

    The main lessons I discern from this passage are:

    1. The people who came to hear Jesus’ teachings had a physical need

    2. The disciples’ initial reaction was: “They can fend for themselves”

    3. Jesus’ response was: “No, you care for them”

    I too am ashamed that our organization doesn’t seem to have learned from that example.

    Would it have been an inconvenience? I’m sure it would have been.

    Would it have caused disruption in the Bethel schedule? I’m sure it would have.

    But, in Jesus’ parable of the Good Samaritan, how much inconvenience was that Samaritan willing to bear to help a wounded Jew?

    What lesson was Jesus trying to teach that Jewish lawyer, who thought himself to be so righteous?

    Nicodemus

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Marvin,

    Thank you for your post. I posted this to another thread this morning, I make no apologies for repeating it. Those who attempt to defend WTS policy in this situation need to search deep within their hearts.

    <<No person is truly condemning the actions of individual JW's on this thread, many of whom would like to react in a more Christian manner to this tragedy, but a genuine and righteous anger is being verbalized at the leadership of the JW’s who have indeed reacted to this disaster with a customary sterile and lukewarm response.

    For example NYT, the JW’s in a North American city wanted to open their homes to persons stranded at the airport of their city due to the WTC disaster. The local elders checked policy over this issue with the Branch and were instructed by the Branch that there was ‘no way’ that the Society was going to allow this to happen. Their reaction - ‘we will help when we are asked and not before’. The desire to show love and support to these people was stifled by the leadership, not by the local JW’s. Some have, in disgust, ignored the Branch policy and have offered their homes. I can assure you of the veracity of this example, I am personally very close to it.

    NYT, people on this board often strike out at JW’s in frustration because they cannot strike out at the GB and their support team, the true religious criminals in this scenario. While this behavior is unfair and actually counter-productive to the XJW cause, it is at least understandable, which is much more than can be said for the WTS confusion about who their neighbor really is.>>

    Thank you Marvin, I know that your posts cost you much more than can be imagined - HS

  • patio34
    patio34

    Thanks Marvin for the info. It's a mistake to link the WTS with any charitable tendencies. It rings true and in line with the aloofness of the WTS. What a contrast with almost everyone else on the news . . .

    Pat

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    (((Marvin)))

  • buffalosrfree
    buffalosrfree

    Nicodemus, lets not forget the miracle of the baskets, where did they come from?????

    12 guys feeding 5,000 that takes time to go to each group and give them food for 50 people. thats 100 trips for all 12 (ifn they went to the group together) make em tired it did. Buff

  • buffalosrfree
    buffalosrfree

    Hillary_step, lets not forget that the society has never been one to take care of orphans and widows, if they wont take care of even thier own hehe brothers and sisters who are naked and without food, why should it surprise anyone if they wont take care of crowds of people who are crushed and hurt and exhausted because of the cowardly act of terrorism. It doesn't surprise me at all. Buff

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    We could add this to Marvin's post:

    Not only were the doors locked to outsiders but the Bethelites were not to venture out. Brothers who would customarily lead field service groups were not able to. Local brothers, if available, or even tourists had to deputize!

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness."
    Anonymous

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