Religion..

by Sassy 37 Replies latest members private

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    Do you find that you are turned off by religion? or that you are drawn to it after leaving the borg? It isn't that I don't believe in God, I think I do, I guess I am not even sure I know how I feel..... most of all I think I am just plain burnt out.. I don't trust I guess and I just want a break.

    Last night I came into chat and everyone was talking about bible stuff and prophecies.. and I thought for a second.. am I in a Pro JW board or an ANTI JW board??? of course I knew where I was.. but I found that I just didn't feel like I wanted to talk about bible prophecy.. and I know some in chat are still JWs.. and some have their own scoop on things.. but I wanted to run because I didn't come to this site to get that.. and yes I know there are threads about the like as well and I can avoid them if I really don't want to read quotes from the bible or literature... but to sit and hear about that kind of stuff was like.. well it felt like I was at the door listening to a presentation... and all I could think was.. will I be rude if I leave??

    Is this normal to feel this way? so turned off?

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    JF Rutherford said one thing right: Religion is a snare and racket. That included the one he re-formulated into the Jehovah's Witnesses.

    Religion to me is a combination "social club" and a bunch of people telling you how they believe you should interact with a supreme being, with varying consequences if you don't. It all seems so pressuring. I've been through enough "pressure" from the religion I was in, enough to last a lifetime.

    If someone else thinks religion helps them, I have no problems with that. Just don't try to twist my arm to make me think it's wonderful too.

  • SuperMommy
    SuperMommy

    Even only being in a "bible" study for a few months has made me feel uneasy about being involved in religion. I am feeling now that I do need some guidance in 'truth' to keep me from sinking back or taking another path that would be just as dangerous. Seeking bible truth at this point seems neccessary to me. I do want to find a bible teaching church soon that believes the same things that I do. At this point maybe just doing your own bible research and studies would help to relieve your burnt out feelings. Having a network of support is going to relieve more stress IMHO. James1:2-18

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Sassy:
    Tis just part of life, me-deario (to quote Celtic ).

    I can understand the reaction, but we all go through cycles.
    I don't blame you in the slightest for voting with your feet, though

    So, what were they talking about? I always miss the fun...

  • talesin
    talesin

    Yah, Sassy, I have felt the same way. I have been so long out of the bOrg that I no longer feel threatened by religious talk, but I do know exactly how you are feeling.

    It takes a while,,, you will find your path.

    {{{{{Sassy}}}}}

    tal

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    Sassy, when I first walked away from being a JW, I still believed in Jehovah. It was so hard to not have my mind racing , trying to figure out is there a Heaven, Hell, life after death, are Jesus and God a Trinity,,,,,etc.etc. I tried to read the bible and just got angry. I could not understand that God was a loving God from the things I read.

    Today, I am no closer to knowing the mysteries of the universe. I have an open mind thou , and think of many possibilities as to what the Higher Power may be. I also think it is highly likely there is nothing for us out there.......that God , if there is one, doesnt deal with us while we are on earth, or perhaps not at all. Maybe we just die and turn back to dust. I dunno........lol,,,,,and it gets exhausting when I try to think of it too much.

    Now I just enjoy the day for what it holds for me,,,,,,,it is not always easy because being raised as JW's , we always had the answers for everything. Granted, they were lies, but we didnt know that.....so it is hard now to not have answers. It is a learning process to accept that maybe we are not meant to know many things.

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    The funny thing is I don't know if I care if I find my path.. it really doesn't bother me. I guess that is why I wondered if this was normal..

    Maybe living in the box all those years.. all that studying..

    I don't want to study right now, I don't to read scriptures. I can respect those who do.

    I just missed out on so much in life, sacrificed because we had that life saving work to do..

    Years of giving up things....

    Right now.. I just want to enjoy life.

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    I know just how you feel. I am so turned off by religion that I know I will never be part of one again.

    I don't need anyone to tell me or interpret for me, what the Bible says or what God wants of me. It's individual.

    I truly believe the world would be a peaceful place if religion were not in the picture.

    Religion only seperates people and makes them feel superior. The truth is we (as individuals...........not talking about criminals here) are not better or worse than anyone. We are just ourselves.

  • True North
    True North
    Do you find that you are turned off by religion? or that you are drawn to it after leaving the borg?

    I am both turned off by religion and drawn to it. Pretty sorry state of affairs, isn't it?

  • Cicatrix
    Cicatrix

    This is gonna sound kind of weird, but for me, it's both. I've always had a need to have spirituality of some sort in my life, yet at the same time, I'm disinclined to believe in religion much anymore (and I'm exploring whether or not I believe in deity). It seems that religion, like politics, is more of a devisive factor in society than one that brings people together. Yet, I still have a need to be part of a community of people who are exploring spiritual issues, just as I feel a need to be a part of the political process, no matter how imperfect it is.

    Some have suggested that if you have a need for community, join a non-religious club, or take a class, or join a charity. Well, I tried doing these things, but they didn't help fulfill my need to explore my spirituality.

    I, like you, have a hard time with Biblical discussions, though.I am just worn out after thirty odd years of putting so much faith in one book. And frankly, I'm pissed off at all the absolutes the Bible demands.I, as a woman, am supposed to take a back seat simply because I happened to be born female? I'm supposed deny homosexuals the same civil rights that I enjoy simply because a book that was written thousands of years ago in a patriarchal society says so? I'm supposed to believe that God wants unquestioning obedience (my kids question my authority all the time-that doesn't make me want to kill them, it makes me happy I raised kids who've learned to think for themselves). And what's with the ambiguous prophecies? It seems like a loving God would see to it that something as important as prophecy would be easily understandable, if he was so concerned about saving the lives of his creation.

    I figure, I've given most my life to the study of that one book, now it's time to put it to the test by reading many other sacred and secular texts and comparing them. So that's what I've been doing-reading books from many different sources on many different subjects, especially those that Bible believers say are heretical or contradictory. After all, if the Bible IS the uncontested word of God, a comparison should surely bear that out.

    I've also been going to a Unitarian Universalist church. When I started going, I told them about my JW past, and that I'm not likely to become an official member because of it. They just laughed and said that all being a member means is that you get to vote at the congregation meetings.I found many others there who have been disillusioned by absolutes in various paths (and I purposely didn't use the word religion, because a good number of them are atheists who have had experiences with experimental social groups and political parties).One thing I like is that they don't seem to put on any pretense that they all think alike. Spirited debates are common, but they occur in an atmosphere of respect for the right of each individual to believe what they want to believe.That's something I need right now, as I move away from the black and white thinking of JW land and try to figure out exactly what my belief system is.

    Will I continue to go to the UU church? Who knows what the future will hold. I'll go as long as I feel that it is beneficial. If I ever get to feeling like I did as a JW though, I'm outta there!

    So is it normal to feel this way? I sure hope so, as I'm going through it still, and I've been officially out for two years now.

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