Get a Life!

by Farkel 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    IMHO, there is no ad hominem worse, no ad hominem more denigrating, and no ad hominem more evil than the expression "Get a life!"

    I've used it myself in the past. It's a quick and down-and-dirty put down. Then I started to think about what that expression actually meant, and I was ashamed I ever used it. I think saying that to someone is far more insidious than calling them a "moron," an "idiot," or "braindead," because it implies a negative definition far beyond a person's thinking ability and defines the person's whole existence, e.g. even a "moron" HAS a life.

    I'm not posting this to explain why I feel this way, (just yet) but rather to stimulate those who are inclined to think about that expression and articulate what they think it actually means when it is disected into its lowest components and then analyzed. In my many, many debates, when a JW apologist or fundy apologist runs out of arguments, it is not unusual for them to dig for straws and say, "You post here so much. What's your problem? Why don't you just go out and get a life?" In many cases, THAT becomes their whole argument, and in those cases any thinking person will know they are out of ammunition and are soundly defeated. Thus, they resort to slinging mud and their mud has no backing.

    From what point-of-view is the person who states such a thing coming from? What does that person think of his/her self when such a person makes that statement? What does that person think of his/her opponent when that person makes that statement?

    In otherwords, what is the REAL communication being presented when someone says, "Get a life!"?

    Think about it.

    I will post my comments and opinions about it shortly and after I've had a chance to hear yours.

    Farkel

  • TR
    TR

    Farkel,

    , "You post here so much. What's your problem? Why don't you just go out and get a life?"

    Good topic. I've seen this statement, or a facsimile thereof, used more times than I care to think about. It can be a last ditch statement of defeat, or it can be said when annoyed with a "Fred Hall"
    type. I much prefer name calling.

    TR

  • Esmeralda
    Esmeralda

    Hello Great Master Farkel:

    This is just my two cents worth (which, with the state of our economy is probably worth about a half a cent, and declining rapidly.)

    To me, the phrase "Get a life" is an attack on a persons right to have feelings, and express them. That the person making the remark is so haughty and sure of their position, (usually with nothing to back up that position) that the only way they can make reinforce to themselves just how right they are is to say "that person is so pathetic they must never get out of the house, away from the computer, etc. Obviously if they had a life as important as mine is then they would be as intelligent and informed as I am." The remark is incredibly arrogant.

    I don't know if that makes sense, it's past my bedtime ;) "Get a life" seems like a cheap shot: a way to make one person feel superior by accusing another of being inferior. That's pretty sad.

    I, like you, know that there were times I've used that phrase in the past. But I'll tell you what, after reading and beginning to apply the Four Agreements in my life, I wouldn't use it now. I look forward to other's remarks.

    *hugs*
    Essie

  • RedhorseWoman
    RedhorseWoman

    Well, this IS a life, isn't it? I do, however, occasionally meander down to the "Life" store and browse the racks.

    I tend to avoid the clearance racks, and I certainly stay out of the upscale life boutiques. However, I find that the off-the-rack lives are frequently too tawdry and mundane for me to consider at any length.

    Usually, I end up being quite satisfied with the life I have. It fits me....and it's already paid for.

  • Uncanny
    Uncanny

    'Get a Life!' to me has become so over-used it is now not only a banal three word put-down, it usually demonstrates the user's lack of vocabulary skills when it comes to lashing out or throwing a quick verbal right hook at someone who deserves it. (Of course, "H20 thugs" - whoops, but I do so love that description of some of 'us' newbie FPP absconders - would never resort to using such tittle tattle schoolyard diatribes, now would we?

    Personally, I've always liked the term 'Get a Life!' as long as the user can back it up with a suggestion on how that life can indeed be attained or improved. But then, some of us can have that term applied to us more literally. Does the fact that I very rarely leave my own house these days - usually only to go grocery shopping - mean that I need to 'Get a Life!' I'm basically quite content with my anti-social reclusion. Or maybe somebody out there would now be suggesting I 'Get a Wife!'

    Oh, who knows. And who really cares? For if I do get too tired of living, I know all I'll need to do then is ... 'Get a Knife!'

    Uncanny

  • unclebruce
    unclebruce

    g'day Mr Farkel,

    The first time I heard the expression "get a life" was my witchy poo sister spitting at her dull JW neighbours who had nothing better to do than gossip about her between trying to tell her how to live (I thought it was very funny but alas ... as uncanny says, it has become so common I can't bring myself to use it - the kind of cheap line someone throws out without thinking. It is interesting to me that many of these 'coined' phrases are mixed up by 'crainally challenged types' who obviously don't bother thinking about what they're saying.

    A stitch in time never boils the kettle black, unclebruce

    PS: Uncanny - my sister lives at Grange Beach. I can put in a good word for ya if ya like.

    Edited by - unclebruce on 20 March 2001 23:29:45

  • RationalWitness
    RationalWitness

    Farkel,

    You raise an interesting subject, and one which certainly has implications for Christians at the very least. I think the matter goes deeper than just one expression, “Get a life,” however. In his ‘sermon on the mount’ Jesus suggests that the elimination of anger and contempt are really at issue. He points out the moral inadequacy of the commandment ‘not to kill’ as a guide to relationships with others who anger us, and identifies a threefold elevation of hostility that includes (but supercedes) your concern:

    “You heard that it was said to those of ancient times, ‘You must not murder; but whoever commits a murder will be accountable to the court of justice.’ However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; but whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt [Raca] will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Gehenna.” (Matt. 5:21-22)

    Of course, we all get angry at times. In its simplest form anger is a spontaneous response, and as such, it is not particularly controllable. It is a feeling that seizes our body and immediately impels us instinctively and often thoughtlessly to react toward some perceived interference with our life, our will. But it is in its own right—-independent of resulting actions-—an injury to others. When I discover your anger at me, I am already wounded, and my stress level is raised. It may also evoke my anger in return. As we know, anger feeds on anger.

    As a response toward those who we perceive have interfered with us, anger includes a will to harm them, or the beginnings thereof. Some degree of malice is contained in every degree of anger. That is why it always hurts us when someone is angry with us personally. We never choose to have others angry with us unless some ulterior end were to be gained by it. We know that people who are angry with us intend to make a painful impression on us.

    Anger first arises spontaneously. But we can actively receive it and decide to indulge it, and many often do. Some even seem to keep a reserve on hand, ready for any occasion, and any disagreement can evoke a torrent of rage in response. I believe we see this with some who get caught up in what might be called “poster rage” (similar to the modern phenomenon of “road rage”, but incidental to Internet forums such as xjw boards). Anger indulged, instead of simply waved off, always has in it an element of self-righteousness and vanity. Find a person who has embraced anger, and you find a person with a wounded ego. And inevitably, the sense of self-righteousness that comes with our anger simply provokes more anger and self-righteousness on the other side. There is nothing that can be done with anger that cannot be done better without it, including argumentation and debate.

    Anger in this sense is pretty common to human life and is still no great sin (if you read Jesus’ words as hyperbole, which I do), even though it is still better avoided where possible. (Headaches are no sin, but do we really need them?) But anger can easily turn into something that is inherently evil and entirely avoidable.

    Contempt is a greater evil than anger and so is deserving of greater condemnation. Unlike innocent anger, at least, it is a kind of studied degradation of another, and it also is more pervasive in life than anger. This is why, Jesus tells us, “Whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt [literally “Raca,” Aramaic] will be accountable to the Supreme Court.” The NIV footnote indicates “Raca” may be derived from the Aramaic word “empty” and have the sense of “empty-head” or, as we might call someone today, “braindead fundie.”

    We can be angry at someone without denying their worth. But contempt makes it easier for us to hurt them or see them further degraded. Filthy language and name calling are always an expression of contempt. To be respected as having equal value is a vital need of every human being. Contempt spits on this universal and deep-seated need. And, like anger, contempt does not have to be acted out in overtly harmful ways to be evil. It can hurt so badly and destroy so deeply that it’s easy to see why Jesus juxtaposed such behavior with the hateful extreme of murder.

    The expression “Raca” is not necessarily said in anger and might even be used at times with a certain amusement. “Fool,” on the other hand, in the sense implied in Jesus’ progression, is always an expression of malice as well as contempt. It does not simply have the sense of a term like “braindead”, but implies a deeper harm than either anger or contempt alone. Excuse the crudity, but a near equivalent in today’s language might be something like “bitch” or “bastard”, as said to someone who has just embarrassed or irritated us.

    So, what is it, exactly, that is being done in Jesus’ delineation of this progression of prohibitions from anger to contempt to verbal desecration? The answer is that he is giving us a revelation of the preciousness of human beings. He means to reveal the infinite value of persons, including their sense of self-worth, their right to dignity. Obviously merely not killing others cannot begin to do justice to that. He is not setting out ‘rules’ or ‘laws’ to replace older ones; he is using hyperbole to demonstrate what kind of people we ought to be, how we ought to treat others. And I think implementing his lesson would preclude using expressions like "get a life" (not to mention the much more stringent ones!).

    By the way, non-theists might appreciate the thoughtful discussions of David Hume on hatred, anger, and contempt in his Treatise of Human Nature, book 2, sections vi-x.

    Regards,
    Rational

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    RW,

    It is such a pleasure to see you again! (Wasn't it I who first said several years ago that your screen name was an oxymoron? :)

    You, more than anyone else so far have hit on the way I feel about the expression "Get a Life." I will comment more about my thoughts tomorrow.

    Thanks for your observations and welcome to this fun playground!

    Farkel

  • JanH
    JanH
    It's a quick and down-and-dirty put down. Then I started to think about what that expression actually meant, and I was ashamed I ever used it. I think saying that to someone is far more insidious than calling them a "moron," an "idiot," or "braindead,"


    Really? That good? Hmm. I haven't thought of it that way... I have to start using it, then

    - Jan

  • trevor
    trevor

    Get a Life - cannot refer to life in this wicked old system but life in the New World. At the end of the thousand years real life will be given to all faithful Witnesses. It is then that they will 'get a life.' If you are luck enough to belong to the elite class of Witnesses you can by-pass the thousand years and go straight to heaven, no waiting. Those select few get immortality thrown in and a glass of wine at the memorial. Sounds tempting!

    Makes complete sense, doesn't it? It's easy when you have a spirit annointed mouthpiece to explain.

    .

    Edited by - trevor on 21 March 2001 4:40:32

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