All Bush/Current Administration Haters Please File in...Slowly

by teenyuck 37 Replies latest members adult

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  teenyuck

  Since so many non-americans are sooo unhappy with the current administration and the way the USA is being goverened and the way the USA is pushing itself on the world, I have a suggestion and an invitation:

  Come to America. Take up residency. Apply for citizenship. Vote.

  If you are an American:

  Do the Arnold thing. Try to make a difference. Whether or not you like his politics, he came, he stayed, he became a citizen and now he may become a politician.

  Furiously typing out your discontent on a religious DB is not going to make one bit of difference. Not one. Posters can scream all they want about being patriotic and hating the current prez. Fine. Good. Free speech. However, unless you write for a major news outlet or online service, your typing is a waste of time.

  DO SOMETHING. Get off your duff and do something. And no, protests don't count. Go work for a politician. Help the people you think should be in office get elected.

  Oh, is that too much work? Easier to sit back and type your thoughts out and feel smug that you have all the answers, huh? (You must have gotten them from an 18 year old named Muscles)

  If you cannot give time, give money. Oh, you have no money....the politicians took all your money on taxes so you cannot afford to give anything?

  Well, you cannot have it both ways. Either you try to effect change with your time or your wallet. It is not going to happen on an ex-JW DB.

  Based upon the responses of the American posters who do post to these threads, not too many vote. If you don't vote, don't whine. When you take the time to drive to the DMV, register to vote, actually place your vote in the ballot box, you have a voice. If you do nothing, you have no voice and all the complaints in the world are not going to change a thing.

  Get out and vote. Change does not happen sitting at home watching the Simpsons.
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  Shutterbug

  Good, very well writtin, advice. Unfortunately it will most likely fall on deaf ears and I'm afraid you have stuck your head in the lions mouth. Some of the hatred that is expressed here is beyond belief, and does no good what so ever except, perhaps, making the poster feel better. I've finally learned to ignore certain posters. Bug
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  SpiceItUp

  Interesting post...

  I am a registered voter and have voted both times in which I was old enough too...my only beef is that when the ball got dropped (like in our last election) it wasn't the popular vote that mattered. It was what the electorial voted. that is what pisses me off with our government. They don't even suscribe to our supposed democracy.

  I do agree with

  Well, you cannot have it both ways. Either you try to effect change with your time or your wallet. It is not going to happen on an ex-JW DB.

  Spice of the wanting to go back to England (but for different reasons )

  PS--- I am anti bush and Anti our goverment with the job they are currently doing, but I am NOT anti-American and NOT anti our boys on the battlefield!

  ok back to your scheduled program as I will get lost in the shuffle anyway
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  MrsQ

  Well said!

  I'm extremely liberal, but I believe strongly in two things:

  1. No matter who the President is and whether or not you agree with them, you should show respect to someone in that office. There is a difference between voicing your political opinions in a respectful and mature manner, and creating monkey pictures in Photoshop of the President.

  2. Vote. If you don't vote, SHADDUP!

  Q.
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  teenyuck

  Shutterbug, Spice, MrsQ, Thanks for the replys.

  I am sure none of the most vocal haters will post here. What can they say? Moving to the US to make the changes they demand would be big. None of them are. All hot air.

  Voting is the key. No matter who you vote for or what party affiliation you have, your vote counts. The electoral college sucks; then again, it gives states with tiny populations a voice. I don't have the answers. I don't have any answers.

  As for the US based haters, they will say they do vote (I dare them to scan their voter card), etc. All talk. It is just easier to type.

  MrsQ said it quite well:

  Vote. If you don't vote, SHADDUP!
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  funkyderek

  Perhaps those who think Osama Bin Laden is a terrorist and should be caught and killed would like to train with the SAS and parachute into the Middle East.
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  Abaddon

  teenyuck;

  So, if someone in a neigbouring village is doing things that seem stupid and potentially harmfull for the entire country, rather than discussing it with people who live in that village and might not realise what is happening, or might be misinformed by a town-crier who is biased, or might be to lazy to do anything unless they are alerted to the dangers, you say we have to move to that village... a village which has residency rules which would stop that.

  I think your patriotic defence mechanism has over-ridden your common sense.

  Essentially you are saying that the outside world has no right to pass comment on how America conducts itself.

  I'm surprised you even suggest that other people should restrict their freedom of speech about America, when America shows no inclination to restrict its comments or actions regarding other countries that it wishes to influence.

  If you don't like it, don't read it. If you disagree, deal with the issues.
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  Abaddon

  ... oh, and teenyuck, I'm amazed you are ignorant of your country's own immigration rules. You can't just move to the US, even if you want to. Add that to the nullbrain straw man characterisations, and the generally idiotic nature of your 'move there' argument, and you've made the worst post you've ever made!
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  Simon

  I have no desire to live in the USA thank you very much and showing up at the border with the reason for entry as "regime change" is unlikely to help anyone gain entry I suspect.

  I agree with funkyderek - why aren't pro-war people signing up for the army and going to fight? Why aren't you doing something?

  The fact is that we simply discuss things and hopefully exchange opinions and by doing so, educate others about what we each believe and think. You are wrong when you say that public opinion and expression and even protest does nothing - any politician ignoring such things will discover it is folly.

  And when it comes to what any country does which has a direct influence on my own well-being and that of my family I will say what I damn well like and keep on saying it. Don't like it? Tough ... why don't you move over here and vote to have my rights removed.
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  Simon

  BTW: "give money" ... I guess that is what makes the difference in certain alleged democracies eh?