WT Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-10 WT Stdy

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    blondie

    WT COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE 11-10-02 WT STUDY

    KEEP PRACTICING THE THINGS YOU HAVE LEARNED PHILIPPIANS 4:9

    Philippians 4:9 NWT
    The things that

    YOU learned as well as accepted and heard and saw in connection with me, practice these; and the God of peace will be with you.

    Introduction

    When I see a theme scripture, I first try to imagine what is going to be discussed. Notice that the title is not even close to a direct quote of the scripture as previous ones have been. Paul is saying that whatever the Philippians heard him teach and accepted, it was because they saw him living what he preached. He was admonishing them to practice what THEY preached.

    One Bible commentary says, "Observe, Paul's doctrine and life were of a piece. What they saw in him was the same thing with what they heard from him. He could propose himself as well as his doctrine to their imitation. It gives a great force to what we say to others when we can appeal to what they have seen in us."

    The introduction starts out on that note. After quoting a secular source that seems to say that more people go to church but morality is not gaining ground, the WTS says, "Many people who say they accept the Bible and are religious are not letting the Scriptures exert any real influence in their life." Then another secular source, "we still hold the Bible in high regard, but in terms of actually spending time reading it, studying it and applying itthat is a thing of the past." No examples or specifics are quote from the secular source. It is presented by the WTS as a given because a secular source said it which is typical (later in this article the media and worldly sources are demonized as unreliable liars).

    But, of course, the WTS says with "genuine Christians (translate to JWs), the situation is different. The application of counsel from Gods Word has brought about changes in their thinking and conduct." "For the followers of Jesus, the Bible is not an unused book that gathers dust on a shelf." This is an amazing comment from an organization that has had to admonish members to look up the Scriptures when invited to at the meetings and has had to direct members to start using the Bible in the field ministry.

    But now they steer us away from Pauls point in Philippians 4:9 that he practiced what he preached and his fellow Christians should also to the real point they are making in this article. The WTS says that is not easy to put these things into practice because we live in a wicked world controlled by Satan. "It is essential to be on guard against anything that would hinder us from pursuing a course of integrity to Jehovah God." And what are these hindrances? First, "loyally upholding true worship, despite opposition from unbelievers."

    HOLD TO "THE PATTERN OF HEALTHFUL WORDS"

    The WTS admonishes, "Our discipleship cannot be a mere phase of our life or a passing devotion that can be here today and gone tomorrow." This seems to imply that those leaving are new ones but the reality is that long-time JWs are fading away; elders are stepping aside at a WTS reported rate of 25% a year.

    Then the WTS uses a phrase from 2 Timothy 1:13, "the pattern of healthful words that you heard from me (Paul)" Using the illustration of a pattern referring to an artists sketch the WTS says "such a representation has well-defined boundaries to that a discerning viewer can perceive the overall picture."

    The application by the WTS, "Similarly, the pattern of truth that Paul taught Timothy was not designed to give a specific answer to every conceivable question (and what is the WTS hinting here?). Yet, this body of teaching (I thought it was the pattern of healthful words. Ever hear of the "full range of Christian truth"?) provides sufficient guidance, an outline, as it were, so that honesthearted ones can perceive what Jehovah (translate WTS) requires of them.

    WT 1/15/96 page 12 Mankind Needs the Knowledge of God


    We need to keep this pattern of healthful words in mind and heart. If we are to avoid figurative heart trouble and remain spiritually healthy, we must apply the Bible in life and put to full use the spiritual provisions God is making through "the faithful and discreet slave."

    Now we jump right into the apostate theme. "Hymenaeus, Alexander and Philetus were advocating ideas that did not fit "the pattern of healthful words. How could the early Christians avoid being led astray by? By carefully study the inspired writings and applying them in their life." They would then be "able to recognize and reject anything that did not conform to the pattern of truth they had been taught." And what is the measuring rod? The Bible, not the WT or any WTS publication. And it doesnt have to be the NWT; any Bible can be used. After all, how did JWs before 1950 measure the truthfulness of what they were taught? There was no NWT.

    Yes, these ones are "mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words." What words are those that the WTS speak of today? Not these words. What is child abuse? Should it be reported to the police? Exactly what is a blood fraction? What about alternative service? What is a generation? Did the great tribulation start in 1914 and was interrupted in 1918 to start up again at a later date? What about transplants? Will the people of Sodom and Gomorrah be resurrected? Who are the "superior authorities"? Did Jesus start reigning in 1874 or 1914?

    REJECT "FALSE STORIES"

    Now the gloves are off. "Its all apostate lies. The media is lying." "Sowing doubts" is from Satan. Hasnt the WTS sown doubts itself by hiding the truth about the topics above? Hasnt the WTS tried to rewrite history?

    "Apostates and others use the media to spread distorted information or even outright lies about the methods and motives of Jehovahs people." Jehovahs people or only certain select ones with authority such as the elders, COs, DOs, Bethel staff, and GB?

    "What were these false stories (in Pauls time)?" "Perhaps (a buzzword used by the WTS which means the Bible does not say but we have special insight and know what God left out) Paul had in mind fanciful legends such as those found in the apocryphal book of Tobit. False stories may also have included sensational and speculative rumors (about what I wonder, child abuse, military cards, simplification, close association with the UN). And here it is, the real reason everyone leaves "the truth", "endorsed a permissive view of Gods standards or who were critical of those taking the lead in the congregation." Yes, "some evidently preferred falsehoods over the truths of Gods Word." Yes, the elders lie to the congregation, people take exception, and leave because they preferred falsehoods?!

    What are the "false stories" today? "The media often promote immorality," "Many people encourage agnosticism or outright atheism," "Higher critics ridicule the Bibles claim to divine inspiration."

    What is missing? What about the WTS affiliation with the UN, what about the mishandling and concealing of child abuse cases, what about the blood stance in Bulgaria or other medical flip-flops such as transplants and immunizations, what about the doctrinal flip-flops about alternative service, superior authorities?

    Yet the WTS invites, "test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world (1 John 4:1). But dont test the WTS because they are from God and we know that because they say they are from God. The "apostates" and "media" dont purport to be from God after all they are promoting "agnosticism or outright atheism." Who is saying they originate with God, the WTS! Certainly any testing should start with "their inspired expressions."

    WT 10/1/82 page 27 Be as Men Who Are Facing Har-Magedon Unafraid
    In behalf of such individuals who at heart seek Gods rule instead of mans rule, the "prophet" whom Jehovah has raised up has been, not an individual man as in the case of Jeremiah, but a class. The members of this class are, like the prophet-priest Jeremiah, wholly dedicated to Jehovah God through Christ and, by the begettal of Jehovahs holy spirit, they have been made part of "a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession." (1 Peter 2:9) At this late date there is a mere remnant of this "prophet" class yet on earth. The "war of the great day of God the Almighty" at HarMagedon could not start before this composite "prophet" ends his work.

    Holy Spirt pages 148-9 8 "Spirit of Life from God Entered into Them"
    The announced purpose behind Gods pouring out of his spirit upon all sorts of flesh was that the recipients thereof might prophesy. The facts substantiate that the remnant of Christs anointed disciples have been doing that prophesying to all the nations for a witness in favor of Gods kingdom. Logically, then, they must be the ones upon whom Gods spirit has actually been poured out. That spirit is behind their worldwide preaching. Why argue about it?

    The WTS says, "keeping testing whether you are in the faith" (2 Corinthians 13:5). But notice what we should test "whether we are adhering to the body of Christian beliefs." We already say them use the phrase "body of teaching." Inactive ones beware because it is phrases like these that the visiting elders will use to trap you into an admission of apostasy. Because it is the "body of Christian beliefs" as taught by the WTS/FDS.

    The WTS asks, "Have we been hurt by the words or actions of someone? If so, are we keeping things in proper perspective? Any tribulation we face in this system of things is temporary?

    Should we ask an abused child to keep things in proper perspective and that their tribulation is temporary? Should we ask a brother who spent years in prison and lost his civil rights after becoming a felon, that he shouldnt be hurt because now brothers can "accept" alternative service? Should we tell a sister who was disfellowshipped because she didnt scream during her rape that things will work out in the end for her? Can we tell a husband who lost his wife because they refused a transplant because it was forbidden between 1967 and 1980 by the WTS, that they should have joy that it will not happen to others because the WTS reversed its decision in 1980 (after all there is the resurrection)?

    The WTS asks, "Even if we experience some trial in the congregation, why should we quit serving God?" Does leaving a corrupt congregation mean we have left God? Was God there in the first place? No.

    The WTS continues, "If we are upset over something, is it not far better to do what we can to resolve the matter and leave it in Jehovahs hands."

    The truth is "do what the WTS allows you to do to resolve the matter."

    Now the WTS brings out the big guns. "Instead of questioning Gods Word (the WTS actually puts their words on the same plane as Gods), how much wiser it is to have the attitude of the first-century Beroeans who examined the Scriptures closely!"

    Notice how the WTS has applied this scripture in the first quote compared to the second.

    WT 1/15/89 page 6 Are You Open to New Ideas?
    That we should be selective about accepting new ideas. We would do well to imitate the Beroeans by "carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things [taught by Paul] were so." (Acts 17:11) Rather than blindly accepting every new idea presented to us, we need to do careful and exact research, just as a judge would in hearing a legal case.

    But during the apostate wars in 1980 and 1981 the application is:

    WT 2/15/81 pages 18-19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible?
    ANOBLE-MINDEDVIEW

    How shall we view the spiritual food provided by this "faithful and discreet slave"? Should it be viewed criticallyOh, well, it might be true but then again it might not be and so we have to scrutinize it very critically? Some apparently have felt that way about it. To support their way of thinking they have quoted Acts 17:11, But does this mean that those Beroeans were looking for flaws in the message they were hearing, or that their attitude was one of doubting? Does this set a precedent for regarding critically the publications brought forth by the "faithful and discreet slave," with a view to finding fault? Not at all!

    "Then there is another type of false story, sensational tales circulate, often means of E-mail." Here the publishers need no help from the "apostates." Who didnt know the person(s) in the congregation that had a direct pipeline to Bethel through a family member or friend? They would send typed accounts of what was said at the breakfast table, reports at lunch from branch overseers, and the general scuttlebutt. It might be experiences or news bits said by Bethel speakers who visited their congregation or at assemblies and conventions.

    "Even if an experience or story was sent by a reputable Christian (what is a disreputable Christian?), that individual may not have firsthand knowledge of the facts (only the WTS has all the facts!). What about the story about the man with the Ph.D. that preferred working at MickeyDs? I wonder if that was carefully checked? The WTS continues, "It is important to be cautious about repeating or forwarding unverified accounts." Long before e-mail there was snail mail and phones which was the medium JWs used to pass on these "unverified accounts."

    The WTS is worried big-time about information on the UN, child abuse, and blood issues that are easily verifiable.

    And they conclude this section with this amazing statement, "Since we also have an obligation to speak truthfully to one another (do not include the WTS or their representatives in this statement, they are allowed to lie because is part of theocratic warfare or strategy), we are acting wisely by avoiding anything that would cause us to even unwittingly spread untruths."

    POSITIVE RESULTS OF PRACTICING THE TRUTH

    "Practicing what we learn through personal Bible study and Christian meetings will bring many benefits." And what might that be, "For example, we might find that our relationships with those related to is in the faith improve." Only "might"?

    Now they zero in on young people and "personal study of the Bible and Christian (what happened to Bible-based) publications as well as by regular presence (in body only) at congregation meetings." But more importantly after giving an experience (that Im sure the WTS properly verified, not), they say "How Jehovah must rejoice when young ones who practice what they have learned muster up courage to witness at school!"

    The WTS continues with this correct statement, too bad they dont apply it to themselves. "Dishonesty can ruin our relationship with others, and more important with Jehovah himself." So the WTS dishonesty with their members puts their status with God on shaky ground. Some of their members may be honest but doesnt prove the WTS is honest. That is why the WTS has "secret" books for the elders and letters sent to them with information that only the elders see.

    CONTINUE PRACTICING WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED

    And what have we learned with this article?

    That the WTS is concerned about the information JWs are getting from the internet and media. The picture they paint is that no information is reliable unless it is directly from the WTS. All other sources, even so-called reputable Bethelites, are unreliable. I found it noteworthy not once did the WTS mention any specific topics that are really being publicized by the "apostates." It reminds me of the story about the elephant in the living room.

    Bobby: "Psssst. Don't tell anyone. It's our secret! There's an elephant in the living room, but we're pretending it's not really there and it's not really an elephant."

    Billy: "But it smells and it's enormous!"

    Bobby: "Just ignore it. Maybe it will go away."

    Pictures

    Page 18

    A white, balding man about 40 contemplates; a computer screen, TV screen with a interview show on it (obviously staged with JWs), and letters in the background

    Caption: Seeds of doubt can be sown by the media, through the Internet, and by modern-day apostates (as if the WTS does sow enough doubts with their untruths)

    Page 19

    A young, white man at a computer printing off material

    Caption: It is unwise to circulate unverified reports (does that include newspapers stories?)

    Page 20

    A white woman and her daughter purchasing items at a store (obviously staged with a Bethelite young brother grinning from ear to ear. I went to Subway the other day and the young woman behind the counter had a ring in her lip. Ouch! You can tell Im an old fogey)

    Young black brother reading to his teacher in school

    Caption for both: At work, at school, and elsewhere, Jehovahs Witnesses apply what they read in Gods Word (obviously they dont know the sister I work with. She has a reputation for being the laziest worker yet she posts Bible scriptures in her work area and newspaper clippings about assemblies.)

    Edited by - Blondie on 5 November 2002 23:1:55

  • minimus
    minimus

    Blondie, you are getting venomous. I like it!

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    ah........i have my weekly blondie commentary fix.......i feel the rush.

    THANKS BLONDIE........

    too bad the drones will line up and swallow it hook line and sinker

    when oh when will the brains be turned on??

  • blondie
    blondie

    minimus, hypocrites are my number one pet peeve. Venomous? Yes, just like the snakes God sent to Israelites.

    Numbers 21 6 Then the LORD sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died.

    Thanks Pistoff. It is one way of draining off the poison so I can stay healthy.

    If anyone has anything to share, new light or old light or personal experience, feel free to join in.

    Blondie

    Edited by - Blondie on 6 November 2002 7:50:33

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    So now they've added the ``media'' to their sh**t list? These reporters sure have a hell of a nerve not regurgitating verbaitm our ``spin'' on controverisal issues!! Don't they know who we are? Where do thye come off by contacting for comment people on the other side of a story? And their infernal insistence that all quote be speficially attirbuted?

    What's next? Demonizing television, newpapers, Time magazine and Newsweek? Then what are they to do with the occasional article praising quick-build Kingdom Halls and conventions? Are they going to reassign the drones at Bethel who work on press releases?

  • NameWithheld
    NameWithheld

    What's next? Everyone that's left must move to a WTS retreat, stick their heads in the sand, and ignore the outside world.

    Final step is the serving of the kool-aid.

  • wednesday
    wednesday

    Blondie, what a lovely review of the WT. I used to do this years ago, didn't know at the time others were doing this also.

    The wts has been badmouthing TV and other media for years.. this is just getting more blatant and now cnnecting it with apostates, so any REAL JW would KNOW not to watch any TV-well maybe the history channel-but that may suspect too, or maybe animal channnel -surley who could object to that?? ( i know people who call it the animal porn channel b/c they frequenlty show animals mating.)

    Oh and the radio-just full of talk radio.

    I predict that before the current aposte witch hunt is over-we will be advised to get rid of our tv and radio and computers.

    Edited by - wednesday on 6 November 2002 19:24:6

  • blondie
    blondie

    Room 215

    Are they going to reassign the drones at Bethel who work on press releases?

    Actually, I asked about this some time ago, how these brothers could read this secular material and not be affected. I was told that they were protected by an extra measure of holy spirit.

    NameWithheld

    Final step is the serving of the kool-aid.

    Be sure to always sit by the side doors (no attendants). If you see attendants by those doors, too late.

    Wednesday

    we will be advised to get rid of our tv and radio and computers.

    Fat chance, how will the GB watch the Victoria Secret show?

  • viglen
    viglen

    Sorry posted to wrong page!

    Edited by - viglen on 7 November 2002 6:42:31

    Edited by - viglen on 7 November 2002 6:52:24

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Bravo Blondie! Right on! Thanks to your inspiration, here are my personal "study notes" for this week.

    Keep Practicing the Things You Have Learned (Phillipians 4:9)

    Paul wrote this to the Philippians. Am I correct that the WTS interprets the promises in this book are for not only the anointed class, but useful for all Christians? What makes this book different than the letter written to the Romans and the Hebrews?

    1, Emerging Trends is a monthly newsletter published by the Princeton Religion Research Center. The full article, published June 1996 (note that this information is already 6 years old) can be found here. The article records some amazing growth figures for Christendom's Churches. An obvious indication of Gods blessing, is it not? Also, I see the WTS is not discomfited using statistical data from a Babylonish source.

    3 Genuine Christians. As compared to what? The insincere Christians in the Babylonish churches, perhaps?

    4 We live in a world that is under the power of Satan the Devil.

    I am tired of the negative messages the society spews out endlessly. Instead of emphasizing how to do good, the article instructs on how to resist bad. Why do they attribute such power to Satan? Would that not be subscribing to the eastern belief of yin and yang, equal but opposite powers of good and evil? Satan may be the lord of the air, but Jesus is the Lord of our hearts.
    • But be of good cheer. I have overcome the world. John 16:33 KJV
    • Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. Rom 12:21
    • I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. 1Jo 2:13
    • Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 1Jo 4:4

    Hold on to the Pattern of Healthful Words

    5..despite opposition from unbelievers.

    Exactly what kind of opposition does the everyday Witness experience in North America today? He may hear protests from his worldly family for refusing to join in healthful family gatherings. His neighbour may scorn his precious magazine by throwing it directly in the trash. Is he denied food stamps, housing, a seat on the bus? His non-action in everyday activities may annoy a lot of people, but the world is not "opposing" him.

    5-6...loyally upholding true worship..loyally upholding true worship...honest-hearted ones can perceive what Jehovah requires of them...

    Could it be that dishonest-hearted ones do not perceive that blind loyalty is required? Light overcomes darkness. Truth withstands scrutiny. Personal study of the bible without the aid of FDS trimmings will bring the truth to light.

    7...the millions serving Jehovah throughout the earth are maintaining a firm hold on the pattern of Bible truth they have been taught. Since we are talking millions not billions, this is a clue that the WTS perceives that only the honest-hearted Jehovahs Witnesses have a firm hold on truth.

    Reject False Stories

    8 ..apostates and others seek to destroy the faith of guileless ones. Aha. All worldly dishonest-hearted ones are suspect. Dont listen to any of them. ..they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled...whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. That is very true. There are now entire television programs dedicated to urban myths. Of course, the FDS would never be deceived by popular but false notions that aluminum is poisonous, the ascribing mystical origins of the Pyramids, or that blood transfusions are dangerous and deadly.

    9...critical of those taking the lead in the congregation..does this mean we NEVER bring our leaders to account for their actions? I took a look at the scriptures quoted, 3 John 9, 10, and Jude 4. It is true that Diotrephes did not acknowledge the authority of Paul. But notice his other behaviour that marks him as a man to be put in his place. He spread false rumours. He instructed others not to help Paul and Timothy. He shunned those who did. Now who does that remind you of? The people of Jude 4 were saying that Gods forgiveness allowed for immorality. Again, there is little doubt that these are more than concerned members of the congregation with a few questions of their leadership.

    10-13 This is a blatant attack on modern-day apostates, and anyone critical of the WTS. Witnesses are encouraged to adhere to the body of Christian beliefs, not the Word of God, a fearsome extension of the divinity of the FDS. This section leaves me speechless. Members are encouraged to cling to the truth (TM). Since the Slaves truth is so full of holes, I would advise honest-hearted ones (TM) to think twice about clinging to them. A life raft full of holes might just sink.

    Positive Results of Practicing the Truth, Continue Practicing What You Have Learned

    14-20 Apparently positive results include:

    • Placing brochures and tracts
    • Completing Theocratic Ministry School
    • Being Honest
    • Attending Regularly
    • Paying Attention to the Material

    Positively anaemic. I prefer:

    But when the Holy Spirit controls our lives, he will produce this kind of fruit in us: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Here there is no conflict with the law. Galatians 5:22-23 New Living Translation

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