Posts by Muslim

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Is this Islam?

by Sirona in

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i'm always willing to give a religion a chance, especially when i don't know much about it.

does this represent islam's view of women?.

Muslim

sphere (loved the part about hell being mostly filled with women, that should really get the girls to watch their P's and Q's)

You see Muhammed (pbuh) was a good shepard, he new what his sheep will encounter when they progress and move into the 19 century what sort of woman will be around, I mean when he said the most woman will be hell, he for saw the feature, he made a prophecy, he didnt say that the woman will be in hell because they are woman but because of there deeds. Look at the civilised Western culture, a woman has to get naked, strip to her skin and lay down naked on top of the car in various sexually stimulating poses, and then the farari sells good, pornoghraphy, woman, lesbianism is on increase, and gayism but compared to the men woman sell there bodies for dollars in the pron films, they dont only show there civilisedness to one man but whole films have been made, and internet is the mother of female pornoghraphy. Its doing of the woman sex with dogs, pigs, donkey, horses, and anything that moves woman do it in porn films and they are the mothers of such sickness spreading across the world, and this sickness is rising, only because of woman. Stupid backward Taliban uncivilised bunch, i mean how dare they prohibt woman from sex with donkeys and dogs, how dare they tell a woman to cover her body, while the educated liberated, civilised, advanced man and woman have europe and have sex with donkeys pigs, how dare the stupid taliban to ban woman from watching porn, and from wearing tight clothes, while the educated and liberated people of west allow their daughters, wives, sisters, mothers to wear the skimpiest shirts and the tightest jeans abaliable so there sexual ornaments can be clearly seen, and thier jiggling breast and nipples can be seen, these taliban are surely stupid, backward, unsoficticated, uneducated, and talibans oppression just doesnt stop there, but we have to admire the liberated woman of west, they truely are liberated, and taliban woman oppressed, hip! hip! hurray! to the liberated woman of west, hip hip hurray!

You brainless, mindless, braindead, Western zumbies, do you every use your brain, i get sick of your stupidity, just tell me when Jesus comes back on the second comming, who wuld he join, how will his daughter dress up like, how will his wife dress up like, i guess they will all sit with jesus and watch late night films and wear short skirts and wear the skimpiest, thinnest shirts so there breasts will be visiable, who would be his role model, porn seller? or someone like Talibani? Who would his daugters want to fallow, pamela aderson, or Britni spears, or Jennifer lopez, or a Taliban woman, what would his daughter do go out and chill out with studs and get drunk, and live the american dream? Now you sick people think over what i have said, i know it will hurt your bride, and this message will be stabbing in your heart but you should not judge, because ye shall be judged with the same measure ye meet.

Sorry i strayed so far away from the topic, but i just wanted to get many different things into this, so you can think why the woman will be the majority in hell, think of all i wrote here and you will know that why the woman will be in hell and their what actions will cause this entry in hell.

These are the few words of wisdom for those who understand.

Ali

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what bible is true?

by kls in

as most of you know my hubby is in the jw.

cult and every morning he reads his daily text.i asked why he needed that daily dont you know how to conduct yourself from day to day?he goes on to say ..it's bible passages,i said why not read the bible..he say's this text breakes it down and makes the daily reading easier ,read it see for yourself.well i did just that i read passages in it and checked what it said to a bible.

hum o'k it matches his bible but this other bible my daughter gave me from her lutherin church it's different which one do i believe?when asking my hubby he said all bibles change some words so it's easier to understand but ,the new world translation, is the closest there is to the origional.my question what bible is right, what bible can i use to compare that he would see his is wrong.one that is non denominational that suits a certain religion.

Muslim

The day I work out which Bible is the original one, then you will be the first one to know, for mean while you can visit this www.Islamic-awareness.org/bible/ and start a little reading, that might help you.

If you find the original let me know, you are on of my toplist of waiting people to hear this news.

Ali

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Islam reveals the truth

by puzzled in

i was getting ready to leave when i overheard this and started watching it.. paul crouch is promoting this new book "the true forquan" (forqan).

it is written by arabic christians who are said to be scholars and the book has been qouted as being "a revealing look inside the koran".

they have already sent out 1300 copies and it is free so if anyone is interested here are the links.. .

Muslim

Ha ha ha ha! I read that damn book, and guess what, the authors of that book can't even quote in the context. I had so much pain in my cheeks that I had to stop laughing.

You must read it has well, then try to use the same against me, and we will debate on the written material, it will be nice distroying that stupid authors fantasy.

REad it and come back we will debate on that.

Ali

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THE EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE

by Muslim in

the expansion of the universe .

the expansion of the universe is the most imposing discovery of modern science.

today it is a firmly established concept and the only debate centres around the way this is taking place.

Muslim

People also don't give much credence to a post that looks like it was a Cut-n-Paste from some other reference. People want to see your words and thoughts... not a huge chunk of text that was cut-n-pasted from another site.

Copy & paste! I have only done this twice in my debate career, becasue I was feeling lazy, so I copeid & Paste, them. I think you need to visit these two site to see what I have posted, no sing of Copy & Paste, all my own, home grown agruments.

http://groups.msn.com/IslamChristianty

http://groups.msn.com/UKChristians Under the Name M.S.Ali

http://communities.msn.co.uk/SikhUK / British people hate Suleh??MuhammedAli

http://64.4.20.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=86318599cd548385dd51382400bf258e&lat=1034225022&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fcommunities%2emsn%2eco%2euk%2faltJehovahsWitnesses%2f_notifications%2emsnw%3ftype%3dmsg%26parent%3d2%26item%3d1825

check for yor self.

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THE EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE

by Muslim in

the expansion of the universe .

the expansion of the universe is the most imposing discovery of modern science.

today it is a firmly established concept and the only debate centres around the way this is taking place.

Muslim

... perhaps you should make a valid point based on facts that can be demonstrated.

Oh the president thing was just a rant, I jiust don't like any of them, I don't thigk they really are bastards.

I have demonstrated the fact, with plausible eveidence in these two links, see if you can rufute any of them.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37838&site=3

and here:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37316&site=3

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Mubillah Challenge - Anyone?

by Muslim in

mubillah means "a prayer fight" or somethig like that.

basicly it is used by two parties, both claiming to have the truth about a certain beleif.

when all else fails they both turn to this prayer fight where they both pray to god, and ask god for show his anger on the guilty (wrong) party.

Muslim

goatelike -

First things first, YOur religion?

Then we will know what we disagree on, second you will have to swear an oath on your beleif, in written form, then we have to fix a period of time on which the mubillah suppose to take effect, then we have to fix what the effet is suppose to be, death, paralysation, cancer, whatever we can aggree on. And then we can proceed further. And when we decided the on everything, I will start a new thread, under the title "Mubillah - M.S.Ali V.S. Goatlike" and then wait and see.

I hope that is clear for you to understand.

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THE EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE

by Muslim in

the expansion of the universe .

the expansion of the universe is the most imposing discovery of modern science.

today it is a firmly established concept and the only debate centres around the way this is taking place.

Muslim

Everyone is entitled to their opinion... just as you are. You got to post your message, and some people posted their responses.

Damn it! You idiot (please do excuse me). I was not reffering to any one else on this forum, or site, I was reffering to these bastards learders of muslims countries.

Gazafi (ghadafi) is a bastard, he is a bastard, and everyone that disagrees wiht me are bastards. Infact all (Not that i beleive that they are muslims) muslim presidents are bastard, they all are bastards, of satan. they are like there father. Saudi, leader is a bastard, Yasser Arafat is a bastard, Musharaf is a bastard, Saddam is a bastard, Gazafi is bastard, all those and more are bastards, their mothers where hores of satan, and when satan did his job with their mothers, these bastards were born.

Read the higlighted section, my fault for not clarifying this, What I ment was that in regards to the "President being bastards", who so ever says that they are not bastards, he is a bastard, or are bastards. Which up to date, no one has disagreed. And from the context you can draw the meaning, it was strickly reffering to the previous post, it didn't apply any where else. Well that is out of the way. And he seems to agree,

Bloody, Stinking Bastards!!!

Ya know, Muslim, the reason we see stars is because their liight has reached us. Now, if the universe were expanding at the speed of light, wouldn't there always be the same distance between us and the light from those stars?

No, it is not that the universe expanding, but technically the space is expanding, the Planets are not moving away from each other, but the space is. Let me give you a example get a balloon put some about five X marks on it, each about 1 cm away from the other, and then blow the bloon half way and measure the distance take a note of them and blow in it until it reaches its breaking point. then then check the distance again. Now you willl have the conlusive evidence on the space expanding.

And I can write alot more on this issue, but why bather!

See, because that light is traveling toward us at the speed of light. But we're also expanding away from those stars at the speed of light. So the light from the stars never gets any closer because we're moving away as fast as it's approaching. Understand?

But did you know that the formation of stars was took place before the formationof our galaxy. Did you know that our galaxy came to existance has a result of star exploding! And what remaind of that star is, what me call "Sun". Mother earth was created few hudered millions years after the formation of the stars took place.

There is definately a gap in your sceintific knowlege, I think if you stduy hard you will get good, but not yet. I am sure that I wrote about me not having knowlege of how the Universe is working, Shhhh, son't tell any one I lied.

How do you American say: The last nail in the coffin?

Peace

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Mubillah Challenge - Anyone?

by Muslim in

mubillah means "a prayer fight" or somethig like that.

basicly it is used by two parties, both claiming to have the truth about a certain beleif.

when all else fails they both turn to this prayer fight where they both pray to god, and ask god for show his anger on the guilty (wrong) party.

Muslim

Mubillah means "a prayer fight" or somethig like that. Basicly it is used by two parties, both claiming to have the truth about a certain beleif. When all else fails they both turn to this prayer fight where they both pray to God, and ask God for show his anger on the guilty (wrong) party. Which materialises in either death of the one person involved in the prayer fight or a sever ill-ness. Just a quick note: this is no joke, if you don't want to die, don't take the Challenge. Many poor Reverands, Pastors, Bishops, have persished at the hands of this mubillah.

Both partie will have to choose one person to represent the whole group of fallowers
They swear an oath

Example: I declare that there is Only One God, and the Trinity is false, (and the statement is ended by this statement:) "Curse of God be upon the Liars"

A fix period of time (three months, two months) for the truth to be revealed,
Both parties can repent and join the other before the actual effects of Mubillah take hold.
Fix a time periode in which the person have to report on the message board (atleast once message per week) to inform the others that the persoon is alive, and well.
Winner is - who lives to tell the tail. And the one who dies, obviously he was a loooser in here (in the world), and hereafter (jugement Day)

Now is there anyone interested in the Mubillah offer?

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Who Will Jesus Choose: Civilised or Uncivilised?

by Muslim in

the question is, if jesus (pbuh) was to come back to earth, which i beleive he will (i don't know how), who would he rather live with, the civilised christians of europe/america or the un-civilised taliban?.

before you make you decision, let me paint the broader picture.

in the civilised west, you have civilised (liberated/free) women, who make hell of alot good porn movies, who are very good for advertisement business, they are willing to reveal their full naked bodies, to attract more custmers.

Muslim

Your tongue in cheek put down of the Muslim faith is in bad taste.

I am sure that I have not said, anything bad about any body, I have only pointed out what is happening in Afghanistan and your West. And if you are angery about the language I used, which is not so bad compared to your People, you only needed to get out os your pet hole to see the kind of language in use, by the civilised Western people.

There is nothing I have said, except some sexuall desriptions which you will even see in the the cartoon, just a an example X-Men, (Wolf Rine, Storm and the others) there the ladys are dressed in very revealing way too. That suppose to be for little kinder Garden children, but it contains obsene ghraphics.

Well, let me admitt my guilt, guilty has charged for the sexually explicit language, but I did not write this to arise your passion it was suppose to be a finger pointing the reality of American life style.

Taliban has too many rules and traditions of men for Jesus to agree with. But, He might live among them in order to try to teach them that LOVE is more important than oppressive, painful and often barbaric rules.

I think, you are right, but not too right. Ok I agree with you on the issue that he will live with them to teach them love, but I think he will be foolish if he does, Has I think American and Europeans need him most, look where your civilised Wes is heading toward, incest. Homosexuality, 40 years ago wa the unthink able, know days it has become a life style choice, and wo knows 40 years from know inest will be life style choice too. Even though natural choice for Jesus would be Taliban, but he can't leave you going at the same speed, toward the hell.

With regards to the Jesus teaching LOVE to Taliban, I don't think there is need for that, Cause they know have everything that will teach them how to live, in Islam they have every thing, to make a model country, but unfortunately the Afghanistanis are not eduated people, 98 % of the afghans are illiterate, they have no knowlege of islam. So only thing they need is how to read and write, and learn about Islam, and when they acqire knowlege of islam, they will learn to love, show mercy, and prosper.

Peace

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Who Will Jesus Choose: Civilised or Uncivilised?

by Muslim in

the question is, if jesus (pbuh) was to come back to earth, which i beleive he will (i don't know how), who would he rather live with, the civilised christians of europe/america or the un-civilised taliban?.

before you make you decision, let me paint the broader picture.

in the civilised west, you have civilised (liberated/free) women, who make hell of alot good porn movies, who are very good for advertisement business, they are willing to reveal their full naked bodies, to attract more custmers.

Muslim

The question is, if Jesus (pbuh) was to come back to earth, which I beleive he will (i don't know how), who would he rather live with, the civilised Christians of Europe/America or the un-civilised Taliban?

Before you make you decision, let me paint the broader picture. In the civilised West, you have civilised (liberated/free) women, who make hell of alot good porn movies, who are very good for advertisement business, they are willing to reveal their full naked bodies, to attract more custmers. In the super markets the ladies working at the checking out counter wear, very thin, short and very revealing clothes, the carrier bags are deliberately placed under the desk so the lady has to bend down to pick them up, and while see is doing all that, the customer gets the glimpse of her breasts, and the next time the same customer comes back to see more of them. In america you have live sex channels, which broadcast sex all day along, once again the liberated ladies of the west do their jobs.

At every corner you see someone having sex on the streets, girls wearing almost nothing, semi naked, walking around thinking they are it. Homosexuality, lesbianism, beastiality, are acepted has a normal thing (at least not by christians), now the incest is also being pushed in the minds of the people. And alot more.

Compared this to the un-civilised Taliban your great continents are far to advance, in everything, technology, morality, health, and millitarily. I mean look at the Taliban they forced the poor women of Afghanistan to wear the veil, this is blunt opression of the defenceless. It only proves that how backward they really were, I mean they banned the TV, they said that it preaches imorality, how stupid is that! They did not allow the people to view the liberated females of the west performing their jobs (Porn), thats another exaple of there oppressive rule, they wanted everybody to have beards, just like Jesus, Moses, Muhammed, (peace be upon them), this adds to the list of there oppressive regime.

Thats about it, Who do you think, Jesus will choose to live with, out of America/European and Talibanic Afghanistan?

Peace!